"Jesus Camp"

[Suomipoika]

What we can conclude that is that this type of christianity is pretty much limited to the Americas, mostly in the southern regions and parts of midwest and some of the west....

....These types are a very limited population that mostly exist in one part of the Americas.

What???? Haven't you heard about the revivals in Argentina, Canada (the "Toronto blessing" in the 90's"), South Korea (Paul Yonggi Cho's Church, supposed to be the largest Church in the world?), the great multitudes of "post-denominational", extremely charismatic Churhes around Christian Africa, etc. etc. etc. et. etc. etc....???? Dude, this "anointing" is a world-wide thing and hasn't been tied to any region in the United States in a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. And these days, the "fire" is "imparted" live through internet, as thousands of people around the world watch the extended Florida Lakeland Outpouring meetings online and "catch the fresh fire of the Lord" right where they are.

You should do some updating of info.

 

[Molal]

As an aside, this is my thread, and I don't mind open discussion in this format. Unless the mods want to take action, I say carry on.

Sounds good to me....thanks

 

[mpok1519]

crazy religion exists everywhere.

 

[Lockguy3000]

Houston, there seems to be a problem

 

[IzzyPop]

And you're point was?

In these matters, subjectivity reigns. Belief is just that, belief. Were it a fact, belief would not be required. Personally, I see no difference between believing in God than I do believing in aliens, the Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot, vampires, or compassionate conservatives. But that is just me. You go ahead and believe in whatever your little heart desires.

 

[LittleNipper]

In these matters, subjectivity reigns. Belief is just that, belief. Were it a fact, belief would not be required. Personally, I see no difference between believing in God than I do believing in aliens, the Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot, vampires, or compassionate conservatives. But that is just me. You go ahead and believe in whatever your little heart desires.

The Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, vampires, and conservatives offer no Bible. There is noting subjective about it. The Bible makes total sense. The rest are of no eternal consequence or hope nor historic prophetic message.

 

[Nathan Poe]

The Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, vampires, and conservatives offer no Bible. There is noting subjective about it. The Bible makes total sense. The rest are of no eternal consequence or hope nor historic prophetic message.

So, you worship the Bible -- what else is new?

 

[IzzyPop]

The Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, vampires, and conservatives offer no Bible. There is noting subjective about it. The Bible makes total sense. The rest are of no eternal consequence or hope nor historic prophetic message.

And, once again, these are your beliefs. They are not facts. It is entirely subjective.

 

[Paulos23]

The Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, vampires, and conservatives offer no Bible. There is noting subjective about it. The Bible makes total sense. The rest are of no eternal consequence or hope nor historic prophetic message.

It makes sense that you can stone children that talk back to their parents? Does it make sense to give all your goods and money away to the poor? Does it make sense to turn the other check on someone who is just about to kill you? And that is just the social rules that doesn't make sense from the Bible, there is also the whole lack of evidence for the flood, or for the afterlife.

The Bible makes as much sense as those myths, less so because it claims to be moral, which those myths do not claim.

 

[LittleNipper]

It makes sense that you can stone children that talk back to their parents? Does it make sense to give all your goods and money away to the poor? Does it make sense to turn the other check on someone who is just about to kill you? And that is just the social rules that doesn't make sense from the Bible, there is also the whole lack of evidence for the flood, or for the afterlife.

The Bible makes as much sense as those myths, less so because it claims to be moral, which those myths do not claim.

You do not see that the Bible is about ABSOLUTES, PERFECTION, RIGHTEOUSNESS. GOD knows that no loving earthly father is going to stone his own son. GOD by speaking in HIS ABSOLUTES is demonstrating to the world through the Hebrews that works are not good enough and impossible to fulfill in human terms. That is why GOD sent HIS SON to die in my place. GOD knew I could never live by GOD's LAW and attain anything, and yet that is exactly what we MUST do in order to go to heaven some day or we must allow CHRIST JESUS to become sin for us and allow HIM to pay the penalty for not perfectly keeping the entire LAW both physically and in our hearts. (Matthew 15: 1-9, John 7:14-24, II Corinthians 5:21)

 

[Paulos23]

You do not see that the Bible is about ABSOLUTES, PERFECTION, RIGHTEOUSNESS. GOD knows that no loving earthly father is going to stone his own son. GOD by speaking in HIS ABSOLUTES is demonstrating to the world through the Hebrews that works are not good enough and impossible to fulfill in human terms. That is why GOD sent HIS SON to die in my place. GOD knew I could never live by GOD's LAW and attain anything, and yet that is exactly what we MUST do in order to go to heaven some day or we must allow CHRIST JESUS to become sin for us and allow HIM to pay the penalty for not perfectly keeping the entire LAW both physically and in our hearts. (Matthew 15: 1-9, John 7:14-24, II Corinthians 5:21)

If God doesn't expect everyone to follow his rules, why do so many Christians do and try and enforce them on everyone else?

 

[cantata]

You do not see that the Bible is about ABSOLUTES, PERFECTION, RIGHTEOUSNESS. GOD knows that no loving earthly father is going to stone his own son. GOD by speaking in HIS ABSOLUTES is demonstrating to the world through the Hebrews that works are not good enough and impossible to fulfill in human terms. That is why GOD sent HIS SON to die in my place. GOD knew I could never live by GOD's LAW and attain anything, and yet that is exactly what we MUST do in order to go to heaven some day or we must allow CHRIST JESUS to become sin for us and allow HIM to pay the penalty for not perfectly keeping the entire LAW both physically and in our hearts. (Matthew 15: 1-9, John 7:14-24, II Corinthians 5:21)

One of my pet hates: reading messianic nonsense into the Old Testament.

 

[Nathan Poe]

You do not see that the Bible is about ABSOLUTES, PERFECTION, RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Because it fails.

GOD knows that no loving earthly father is going to stone his own son. GOD by speaking in HIS ABSOLUTES is demonstrating to the world through the Hebrews that works are not good enough and impossible to fulfill in human terms.

So you're saying, for the record, that the Bible should not be taken literally? Are we going to get a straight answer from you here?

That is why GOD sent HIS SON to die in my place. GOD knew I could never live by GOD's LAW and attain anything, and yet that is exactly what we MUST do in order to go to heaven some day or we must allow CHRIST JESUS to become sin for us and allow HIM to pay the penalty for not perfectly keeping the entire LAW both physically and in our hearts. (Matthew 15: 1-9, John 7:14-24, II Corinthians 5:21)

So the whole thing's a scam -- all those poor Jews still keeping Kosher shouldn't bother?