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So your contention that I was linked to the JW cult was to edify me?... rightThrowing a poorly veiled insult at me.
Wil not change the fact that the suggestion that michael ..is jesus..no matter how remolty implied.is both an error and a lie.
Anything Biblical to show these things?Angels leave Heaven on missions, and yet still are in His presence. In His presence they can drink the living water. They receive His presence and commissions and take messages and bring us buckets of living water and oil, and healing gifts...
The Bible mentions the "anointed cherub" and our traditions hold, this makes the anointed angels archangels. So the Holy Spirit oil is poured over these ones, in Heaven.
Yes, Genesis' Jacob's ladder. There is mention of angels in disguise and properly entertaining them. Genesis' angels visiting Sodom on a mission. Revelation and the river of life clear as crystal, flowing from His throne, Revelation 22, alongside the Tree of Life. For Heaven's citizens to eat and drink from.Anything Biblical to show these things?
this still does not excuse that even the suggestion or hint of implying that Michael is Jesus , is both an error and a lie . my intent was to link you to them only in that ..your promoting that same errorSo your contention that I was linked to the JW cult was to edify me?... right
Believe as you wish... I know the Biblical soundness of this. I consider it a blessing to know another facet of my Lord and Saviour.
Some just want to keep Him as a babe in the manger or hanging on the cross...
We aren't looking to Angels. Angels are ministering spirits who help those who will have salvation. But they do not and can not provide salvation in themselves. They hold to the same TESTIMONY that believers in CHRIST JESUS (who is not Michael) hold toAngels leave Heaven on missions, and yet still are in His presence. In His presence they can drink the living water. They receive His presence and commissions and take messages and bring us buckets of living water and oil, and healing gifts...
The Bible mentions the "anointed cherub" and our traditions hold, this makes the anointed angels archangels. So the Holy Spirit oil is poured over these ones, in Heaven.
Good postIn the apostles' writing, we are warned of strange new teachings, which had already begun in the first century.The apostles built over old pagan and philosophical Greece and Rome... but then come new ideas. It matters because by our faith we are saved. By faith in Jesus. Jesus is God. To doubt Jesus is God and to think He is an angel or demi-god or prophet could cost you your faith and salvation, offered by and through faith in Jesus.
So if one thinks Jesus is the incarnation of Michael, it is not another facet of true faith, or the original teaching of the apostles, it is a doubt, a false teaching.
That is why there is apostolic succession and careful translation, and theology, to maintain, explain and defend the faith. John the apostle had a disciple called Polycarp who wrote epistles and became bishop as successor of John. JWs best read their works including up to Augustine, bishop of Hippo.
Yeah, angels bring messages to us and messages from us, our prayers. God is almighty. I wonder what it would be like if two thirds of angels fell and not one third?We aren't looking to Angels. Angels are ministering spirits who help those who will have salvation. But they do not and can not provide salvation in themselves. They hold to the same TESTIMONY that believers in CHRIST JESUS (who is not Michael) hold to
NoYeah, angels bring messages to us and messages from us, our prayers. God is almighty. I wonder what it would be like if two thirds of angels fell and not one third?
Just adding, the book of Exodus mentions the Angel of the Lord, who has God's name in him, and who stayed behind Israel protecting them. It was said he did not have to forgive sins against him. He was to be revered. From my understanding, this angel could be likened to a planet, like Earth, God's filling in him, the rock, his spirit, the atmosphere. It's God's presence that makes them glorious over and above earthly holiness.
In the Gospel angels are there after the resurrection with messages. They still work. They don't preach but they help us. They bring dreams from Jesus, and take us when we die, to Jesus. Angels serve Him.No
Today GOD speaks to us by HIS SON
And angels are not to be worshipped
I would see JESUS who is as the finger of GODIn the Gospel angels are there after the resurrection with messages. They still work. They don't preach but they help us. They bring dreams from Jesus, and take us when we die, to Jesus. Angels serve Him.
If you could see the hand of God, would you see a big hand on someone, or would you see an angel?
i do, thats trueI think we can experience Jesus presence for sure, and sometimes it could be a great presence of Jesus in an angel, who surrenders to Him. The angels are still in use. Such as in the empty tomb Gospel scene. We still have guardian angels. God's name is still in them, they were not a temporary measure. I think if I saw God's finger, I would see an angel ministering with God's presence and power having filled him, and he would be exact and instant at obedience and wise against the unclean spirit.
St Michael still serves Jesus.
I think you need to review Hebrews 1 and 2I think we can experience Jesus presence for sure, and sometimes it could be a great presence of Jesus in an angel, who surrenders to Him. The angels are still in use. Such as in the empty tomb Gospel scene. We still have guardian angels. God's name is still in them, they were not a temporary measure. I think if I saw God's finger, I would see an angel ministering with God's presence and power having filled him, and he would be exact and instant at obedience and wise against the unclean spirit.
St Michael still serves Jesus.
There wouldn't be a changed message than the Message already givenNo mention of any message other than the ones given them by God.
There wouldn't be a changed message than the Message already given
Again if one comes with "another message" don't accept it
Do you need more exact quotations?Anything Biblical to show these things?
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