Jeremiah

[Sam91]

PS: I guess I would also say that His Word is already truth but becomes increasingly immediate to our personal experience, by faith, often via trials and tribulations. Philippians 3.10 speaks of 'the fellowship of His sufferings'.

Oh yeah but I mean personal heart understanding of the Truth. Instead of being Truth it becomes a deep understanding and written on your heart. You see the Truth in it.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Oh yeah but I mean personal heart understanding of the Truth. Instead of being Truth it becomes a deep understanding and written on your heart. You see the Truth in it.

Yes, personal acknowledgment of what is already true is vital, else what good does it do to the individual?

 

[faroukfarouk]

... it becomes a deep understanding and written on your heart. You see the Truth in it.

PS: "But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay." (Jeremiah 20.9)

 

[W2L]

PS: "But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay." (Jeremiah 20.9)

Interesting verse.

 

[Sam91]

Yes, personal acknowledgment of what is already true is vital, else what good does it do to the individual?

Head knowledge is great but heart knowledge transforms.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Interesting verse.

Yes, and it goes to show just how deeply God's Word can convict us.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Head knowledge is great but heart knowledge transforms.

Well, exactly; Pascal said: 'The heart has its reasons that reason knows nothing of'.

And he wasn't just talking of love affairs; he wrote a lot about faith matters.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Head knowledge is great but heart knowledge transforms.

I think the verse: "I believed, therefore have I spoken" (Psalm 116.10) nicely sums up the relationship between head and heart in faith.

 

[W2L]

I think the verse: "I believed, therefore have I spoken" (Psalm 116.10) nicely sums up the relationship between head and heart in faith.

Psalms 116:7 Return to your rest, O my soul,
For the Lord has dealt bountifully with you.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Psalms 116:7 Return to your rest, O my soul,
For the Lord has dealt bountifully with you.

Good verse there.

I see also that Paul quotes Psalm 116.10 in 2 Corinthians 4.13.

 

[Sam91]

I think the verse: "I believed, therefore have I spoken" (Psalm 116.10) nicely sums up the relationship between head and heart in faith.

◄ Psalm 116 ►
New International Version
Psalm 116

1I love the Lord, for he heard my voice;

he heard my cry for mercy.

2Because he turned his ear to me,

I will call on him as long as I live.

3The cords of death entangled me,

the anguish of the grave came over me;

I was overcome by distress and sorrow.

4Then I called on the name of the Lord:

“Lord, save me!”

5The Lord is gracious and righteous;

our God is full of compassion.

6The Lord protects the unwary;

when I was brought low, he saved me.

7Return to your rest, my soul,

for the Lord has been good to you.

8For you, Lord, have delivered me from death,

my eyes from tears,

my feet from stumbling,

9that I may walk before the Lord

in the land of the living.

10I trusted in the Lord when I said,

“I am greatly afflicted”;

11in my alarm I said,

“Everyone is a liar.”

12What shall I return to the Lord

for all his goodness to me?

13I will lift up the cup of salvation

and call on the name of the Lord.

14I will fulfill my vows to the Lord

in the presence of all his people.

15Precious in the sight of the Lord

is the death of his faithful servants.

16Truly I am your servant, Lord;

I serve you just as my mother did;

you have freed me from my chains.

17I will sacrifice a thank offering to you

and call on the name of the Lord.

18I will fulfill my vows to the Lord

in the presence of all his people,

19in the courts of the house of the Lord—

in your midst, Jerusalem.

Praise the Lord.a

It wasn't what I meant but a lovely psalm to reflect on. It's quite profound actually, if only the children would quieten down to enable thought

 

[W2L]

Good verse there.

I see also that Paul quotes Psalm 116.10 in 2 Corinthians 4.13.

Yes. I didn't know Paul was quoting a Psalm. I do know. Thank you.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Yes. I didn't know Paul was quoting a Psalm. I do know. Thank you.

YW; so much of the NT is rooted in the OT.

 

[faroukfarouk]

◄ Psalm 116 ►
New International Version
Psalm 116

1I love the Lord, for he heard my voice;

he heard my cry for mercy.

2Because he turned his ear to me,

I will call on him as long as I live.

3The cords of death entangled me,

the anguish of the grave came over me;

I was overcome by distress and sorrow.

4Then I called on the name of the Lord:

“Lord, save me!”

5The Lord is gracious and righteous;

our God is full of compassion.

6The Lord protects the unwary;

when I was brought low, he saved me.

7Return to your rest, my soul,

for the Lord has been good to you.

8For you, Lord, have delivered me from death,

my eyes from tears,

my feet from stumbling,

9that I may walk before the Lord

in the land of the living.

10I trusted in the Lord when I said,

“I am greatly afflicted”;

11in my alarm I said,

“Everyone is a liar.”

12What shall I return to the Lord

for all his goodness to me?

13I will lift up the cup of salvation

and call on the name of the Lord.

14I will fulfill my vows to the Lord

in the presence of all his people.

15Precious in the sight of the Lord

is the death of his faithful servants.

16Truly I am your servant, Lord;

I serve you just as my mother did;

you have freed me from my chains.

17I will sacrifice a thank offering to you

and call on the name of the Lord.

18I will fulfill my vows to the Lord

in the presence of all his people,

19in the courts of the house of the Lord—

in your midst, Jerusalem.

Praise the Lord.a

It wasn't what I meant but a lovely psalm to reflect on. It's quite profound actually, if only the children would quieten down to enable thought

The Psalms are amazing for their sheer range and depth of human experience; the highs, the lows, the anguish, the faith, the Messianic content.

 

[faroukfarouk]

It wasn't what I meant but a lovely psalm to reflect on. It's quite profound actually, if only the children would quieten down to enable thought

Oh of course, you have the decibels of a houseful to contend with.

 

[Sam91]

Oh of course, you have the decibels of a houseful to contend with.

It makes replying to people who nitpick at what you say and post lengthy posts full of technical words quite tedious and barely possible

 

[faroukfarouk]

It makes replying to people who nitpick at what you say and post lengthy posts full of technical words quite tedious and barely possible

Well, I hope I'm not too nitpicky .

Yes, sometimes if there is disturbance in the background, one's train of thought can be replete with multi-tasking... But you women are really good at multi-tasking, anyway, usually.

 

[Sam91]

Well, I hope I'm not too nitpicky .

Yes, sometimes if there is disturbance in the background, one's train of thought can be replete with multi-tasking... But you women are really good at multi-tasking, anyway, usually.

I have brain fog in the evenings from thyroid exhaustion. It's tricky to think.

 

[faroukfarouk]

I have brain fog in the evenings from thyroid exhaustion. It's tricky to think.

My wife also has thyroid problems.

PS: I guess we are getting off Jeremiah.

 

[faroukfarouk]

I do like Lamentations also; chapter 3 is quite well known, compared to the other chapters of Lamentations.

Also by Jeremiah.