Javier Solana --- Antichrist?

[HUBIE]

I apologize for my tone - though I stand behind the content of my statement. I merely think that attempting to define who the Anti-Christ is - especially since (as noted) it does appear to be a "flavor of the month" thing - is a waste of time.

The statue was a bit more creative than calling the pope the Anti-Christ. Only slightly.

I was on a business trip for a couple of days.... Do you mean the Pope is NOT the Antichrist???

BTW LucasGoltz. My parents are SAVED sincere Roman Catholics. They don't worship any statues. This is the type of Biased, Opinionated, Legalistic Claptrap that makes the "world" dive for cover whenever you enter a room. I'm not saying you have to be a liberal (everyone's going to heaven, let's ordain gays and lesbians, etc.) ninney, however, before you start tossing stones, find out what a brother believes will ya?

 

[bkhoward2001]

Why don't we check the Bible? Daniel 8 seems to say that the AC will come from Alexander's Empire. Solana is from Spain. Spain was not part of Alexander's Empire.

Myth.....Busted!!!

The AntiChrist will rise from the Holy Roman Empire.... The kings and dignitaries of Spain have in the past been the heads of the Holy Roman Empire.... Read your history....

 

[Micahyah]

Solana doesn't wear his religion on his sleeve, nor is he head of the most powerful empire on earth.

From www.watchmanreport.com

The events of 9-11 are actually one of the keys to endtime Bible prophecy. However, the prophecies state that the leadership of the country would be complicit in the deed. This immediately would also partially fulfill the prophecies regarding lying wonders, as 9-11 was a lying wonder indeed, which lie is still being vehemently maintained and propagated by the mainstream media and a U.S. Constitutionally treasonous executive branch of the government (the false prophet and the beast), even without a shred of legitimate evidence to corroborate the lie, including the 9-11 commission's recent confession that what they wrote in the report were indeed lies, omissions and half truths (Theologian, David Ray Griffin stated this long ago, even wrote a book on it and was called a conspiracy theory nutcase - now the 9-11 Commission themselves have validated his statements).

The BIG LIE, called the transgression of desolation in the book of Daniel 8:13, will fall apart, according to the Word. What I am saying is not at all politically correct, but since when is God concerned about being politically correct, particularly when being so, one must believe and propagate the lies of silly, incomprehensible, physically impossible and implausible story telling?
Well how do they explain a prophecy, written nearly 3000 years ago, about the events and exploits of a future world leader, hidden and sealed in the prophecy of Daniel 8:9-11? And you wonder why it was sealed? Look at the verse numbers and tell me there is no such thing as God! This is merely a fragment of the unsealed prophecy of Daniel - Oh yes, there is more, much more! Hidden within meanings that one would think pertain to spiritual things are the essence of what is happening in the political, physical realm of the endtimes - this is how it was sealed!​

“And out of one of them came forth a little horn (George W. Bush), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south (Texas), and toward the east (Washington D.C.), and toward the pleasant land (America). And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven (the Christian church); and it cast down some of the host (citizens) and of the stars (Strong's: stars of commerce; the rich; the elite citizenry of the WTC) to the ground, and stamped upon them (see picture. Who is being trampled underneath his feet in the pile of rubble? The many stars that fell on 9-11). Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host (ruler of the people; the U.S. Constitution), and by him the daily sacrifice (Strong's: daily employment, not sacrifice) was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary (his country; America) was cast down.”​

- Daniel 8:9-11​

Don't rest easy, thinking that it will be a big relief to finally get at the truth of what really happened on 9-11. As it states in the last few verses of the eleventh chapter of Daniel, the perpetrators of the transgression of desolation will be found out and shall fall without hand, but then, the twelfth chapter of Daniel is the start of the tribulation period!​

 

[OhhJim]

The AntiChrist will rise from the Holy Roman Empire.... The kings and dignitaries of Spain have in the past been the heads of the Holy Roman Empire.... Read your history....

Have you even read Daniel 8? It clearly indicates that the AC, or someone who sounds a lot like him, comes from one of the four divisions of Alexander's Empire. What do I care about the Holy Roman Empire, when the Bible isn't clear about it?

Do you have any scripture that says the AC will rise from the Holy Roman Empire?

 

[vinsight4u]

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[icedtea]

Never speculate. It will be someone we've never thought of, if we are even here.

 

[OhhJim]

“And out of one of them came forth a little horn (George W. Bush),

Ok, let me get this straight: You're saying George W. Bush came forth out of Alexander's Empire? You got some 'splainin' to do.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[NumberOneSon]

Well how do they explain a prophecy, written nearly 3000 years ago, about the events and exploits of a future world leader, hidden and sealed in the prophecy of Daniel 8:9-11? And you wonder why it was sealed?

So the chapter/verse divisions inserted into modern Bibles by a 16th Century French printer suddenly equates divine foretelling?

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[mrshoward]

I always suspected GWB was the Anti-Christ.

 

[inhisdebt]

Never speculate. It will be someone we've never thought of, if we are even here.

Granted it will not be someone obviouse, but christians with discearnment should be able to recognise him, problem is as we can see just in these posts, biblical discearnment is not that prevelant, even amongst christians who have studied the subject.

 

[bkhoward2001]

Granted it will not be someone obviouse, but christians with discearnment should be able to recognise him, problem is as we can see just in these posts, biblical discearnment is not that prevelant, even amongst christians who have studied the subject.

To 'discern', one has to open their eyes and their mind to what is going on.... Watch what Javier Solana is up to these days... He is all over the news wherever global conflict is.....

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

To 'discern', one has to open their eyes and their mind to what is going on.... Watch what Javier Solana is up to these days... He is all over the news wherever global conflict is.....

Including the Jews. Oh wait, I forgot the Lord took their temple and priesthood away already and why there is no long a "Canaanite" in it.

Mark 11:17 Then He taught, saying to them, "Is it not written, 'My House shall be called a house of prayer for all nations'? But you have made it a 'den of thieves.' "

zech 14:21 Yes, every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to the Y@hovah of hosts. Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite/merchant in the House of the Y@hovah of hosts.

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/a...ntichrist1.htm

...........Actually, the Bible has very little to say about antichrist. The word "antichrist" appears only five times in the whole Bible. None of these occurrences are in Daniel, Revelation, or any other prophetical book. Four of these five are in the little book of First John and the last is in the book of Second John. Antichrist is referred to in the singular, plural, as HE, and as IT. John penned these warnings to the saints somewhere near the close of the first century A.D. Those to whom John wrote were expecting this antichrist to come contemporary with the presence of Christ in this age of the Holy Spirit. John tells them that we know we are living in the last hour and Christ is actually here, or His opposer would not have risen up.............

Antichrist is spoken of in four distinct forms. I Jn. 2:18 says, "Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come..." The absence of the definite article shows that the term here embraces the WHOLE REALM OF ANTICHRIST, bespeaking a SYSTEM, including both the actors and the program(s) they initiate. In addition to the ANTICHRIST SYSTEM we read in vs. 22, "Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST..." In the Greek, however, the definite article is used, so that the Greek text reads, "Who is THE LIAR, if not the one denying that Jesus not is the Anointed one? this is THE ANTICHRIST, the one denying the Father and the Son." Here antichrist is the title of a specific personage. Then it says, "Even now are there MANY ANTICHRISTS." In addition to the singular person who is the antichrist, there are many antichrists. Then, in addition to antichrist as a person, and many antichrists or many persons, and antichrist as the system spawned by these, there is the SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST which operates in all the antichrists and in their system. "And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, whereof you have heard that is should come."

Let us summarize these four distinct forms of antichrist and list them in the order in which I am impressed by the Spirit to deal with them: (1) the spirit of antichrist (2) many antichrists (3) the antichrist (4) the antichrist system.

 

[icedtea]

I am a news junkie, and yet the only time I have ever heard of this man is in this thread.

 

[ElijahFalling]

I am a news junkie, and yet the only time I have ever heard of this man is in this thread.

Don't rely on mainstream news media to provide accurate info in the end times. Most of the "events" that we will be looking for will probably be blacked out/censored by the satan-controlled media.

 

[OttawaUk]

I thought I'd pop in to post this. For a guy who is almost completely unknown to the average person, Javier Solana sure has been given an enormous amount of power and responsibility. Again, this could all be nothing, but his comments today are certainly eye opening.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060915/ts_nm/nuclear_iran_france_dc

"I don't think our American friends will be losing their patience," he said. "We are in the same boat. I am representing them. I am representing all the members of the Security Council. I am representing also the European Union, and I don't have a sense of losing patience."

The world sure has given this guy alot of power and it seems to be continuing to grow.

God Bless you.

In Him,
OU

 

[icedtea]

I will have to check him out on Wiki.

 

[brother daniel]

I will have to check him out on Wiki.

Beloved,
Here is some Solana news.


European Union foreign ministers agreed on Friday to back a Palestinian national unity government being formed by President Mahmoud Abbas with the Hamas movement, Italian Foreign Minister Massimo D'Alema said.
But, what really caught my eye was the following:
"Javier Solana told us in the platform there will be recognition by the new government of the treaty signed by the Palestinian Authority in the past -- it means recognize Israel as a partner," the Italian minister said [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Read about it here[/SIZE][/FONT].
The next piece of news is about the immensely dangerous Iranian crisis.
"I don't think our American friends will be losing their patience," he said. "We are in the same boat. I am representing them. I am representing all the members of the Security Council. I am representing also the European Union, and I don't have a sense of losing patience" [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Read about it here[/SIZE][/FONT].
The last report is about the old Balkans crisis.
Macedonia will be the first in the next wave of EU enlargement of the EU if the country manages to keep its present fact pace, Javier Solana, High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Secretary-General of the Council of the European Union announced [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Read about it here[/SIZE][/FONT].

Friends, even setting the prophecies aside, Solana's rise to world prominence is now becoming obvious. And, we ignore these kind of events to our peril.

09-15-2006​

[Home]

What concerns me is Javier Solana, is a Marxist and atomic Scientest like Robert Oppenheimer and his brother Frank of Atomic Bomb fame.​

Basicly that means to me, that the anti-christ, global Socialist agenda of the scientific elite will be used to forge an alliance between ISRAEL and PALISTINE and the 8 other islamic nations of the EuroMed partnership.​

Javier Solana has a lot of power and quite likely will head all world armies.
A Solana quote:
I am representing all the members of the Security Council. I am representing also the European Union,​

That means he is the voice of Nato, the UN and the EU when it comes to matters of military and police power.​

When The United States cant pay the interest on its debt, Solina looks like the guy that will be put in charge of the international creditors US assets.

With love in Christ
brother daniel​

 

[icedtea]

Does his name add up? Doesn't solana mean something to do with the sun?

 

[brother daniel]

Does his name add up? Doesn't solana mean something to do with the sun?

Beloved,

When The United States cant pay the interest on its debt, Solina looks like the guy that will be put in charge of the international creditors US assets.


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