Is the current leader for the Republican Nomination not saying that we should ban all Muslims from crossing over the border?
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It's not because they are Muslim
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Is the current leader for the Republican Nomination not saying that we should ban all Muslims from crossing over the border?
The current frontrunner for the Republican Nomination for President and his supporters. I'm betting you know his name.
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Where exactly did Donald Trump demonize all Muslims? All you've been able to point to so far is Trump's call for a temporary moratorium on the immigration of Muslims. That's not even close.
It's really depressing how people think they can tell half-truths in order to smear someone, and it's supposed to be perfectly alright. They even defend themselves when it's pointed out to them what they've done!
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Hatred of Islam doesn't imply hatred of the individuals who follow it.
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It's true. It's the actions you take against the members of the religion you hate that matters.
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No, it's not. Any reasonable person knows that. If there had been some "demonizing" accompanying it, that would be different. But of course, that wasn't the case and Trump went on to say nice things about his Muslim friends, etc. so you might as well recognize that you got carried away with fancy words that weren't accurate. You really can't do that and retain any credibility, not to mention the moral obligations of our faith. OK now?
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He didn't say they WERE Isis. You know better than that, I hope.
If all immigrants were required to have a background check, that doesn't mean that we are saying that each of them is up to no good. It means that we want to find out who is and who is not.
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How would it have been different?
What wasn't the case?
He said he would not allow any Muslims to enter the country. If he had not been charging all of Islam with the crimes of ISIS he would have used another defining characteristic, other than religion, to determine who may and who may not enter the country.
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Uh, no, it's not. It's like saying that because we are at war with Germany, we won't allow any immigration from that country for the duration of the war. That isn't saying that every applicant is a Nazi spy.
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Oh man I am sick of the constant comparison between extremist Islam and the Second World War. Germany had heavy manufacturing, three armed services and millions of trained men under arms and a bureaucracy to govern conquered regions.
Extremist Islam has <100,000 poorly trained, poorly equipped, disparate guys and a couple of goats.
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