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It's election time!!

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Well we don't know the date yet, but it'll have to be soon.

So is it better, do you think, for Christians to join existing parties, or to support a specifically Christian party?
I think I'm probaly going to rejoin the Lib dems soon; I know they have a Christian forum and will join that too. But every so often I wonder if I shouldn't be giving my support to the Christian alliance, or whatever they're called, even though they may not be standing in this area, and there may not be a local group.

How do we "let our light shine before men" (sermon this morning) and be salt to the world? By being seperate - or being in there alongside non Christians?
 

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Support the party you think makes the most sense on economic and social issues. Don't be taken in by some bunch of cowboys who throw "christian" into their party title. The Christian party have some suicidal economic policies, and their social policies will alienate huge chunks of the population, leading to social problems. You can see on these very forums that christians have widly differing views on how to run a country, even if their religious outlook is the same.
 
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The election of 2010 - no matter who wins - will signal the beginning of the end of Britain.

My own individual prescription is to opt out of the charade altogether. When you die and approach the Pearly Gates, St Peter will ask the Britons among you one question: did you vote in the 2010 General election? Not "for whom did you vote and/or why"; just did you?
 
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The election of 2010 - no matter who wins - will signal the beginning of the end of Britain.

My own individual prescription is to opt out of the charade altogether. When you die and approach the Pearly Gates, St Peter will ask the Britons among you one question: did you vote in the 2010 General election? Not "for whom did you vote and/or why"; just did you?

Why do you think that?

I don't like labour, but I'm probably going to end up votng for them just so the Tories won't get in.
 
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I don't like labour, but I'm probably going to end up votng for them just so the Tories won't get in.

Giving someone a lesser-of-two-evils vote to prevent the worse alternative - pulling a lever for Coke to vote against Pepsi - is the working definition of fool's errand.

More than ever, it's clear that the act of voting only further lends credence and authority to a Coke-or-Pepsi system that must end. Two-party is one-party by another name. Witholding your vote and doing your small part toward bringing the turnout % down makes a much stronger statement...just sit the election out, bro.
 
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Giving someone a lesser-of-two-evils vote to prevent the worse alternative - pulling a lever for Coke to vote against Pepsi - is the working definition of fool's errand.

More than ever, it's clear that the act of voting only further lends credence and authority to a Coke-or-Pepsi system that must end. Two-party is one-party by another name. Witholding your vote and doing your small part toward bringing the turnout % down makes a much stronger statement...just sit the election out, bro.

And yet there IS a third party, the Lib Dems.
And I daresay that if enough people rose up in protest, the Green party could do better too.

It's always the same - the belief if you don't want Labour, you have to have Tory, and vice versa. No, we don't.
Why won't anyone even give the Lib Dems a chance? They can't make a worse job of it than New labour has, and if they DID, and showed that they were incompetant and out of their depth; no one would ever vote for them again.

Years ago, someone who was being interviewed on local news said; "I'd vote for them if I thought they'd win". They won't win if no one votes for them, and then we'll be stuck with people moaning about Labour or the Tories.

Vote Lib Dem, or Green. Maybe they won't win, but they could get enough seats to make the politicians sit up and realise that we've all had enough. (Here ends the party political broadcast!)
 
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I voted Green in the last election before I left Ireland. They'e in power now, and they're so terrified of losing it they just go along with whatever their right-wing, corrupt, incompetent coalition partners in Fianna Fáil tell them. They've lost my vote for at least the next election. (If I'm in Ireland, I'll be voting labour. The Irish labour party haven't gone the same way as their British counterparts)
 
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I'm voting Lib Dem or Labour, depending on how the polls look. I'm going to try my best to get us a hung parliament where suddenly the government has to start listening to everyone (almost). It'll be a slow government, but looking at history makes me think that quick decisions are not necessarily a good thing.

Also, a hung parliament will make everyone turn around and go "hang on, we're doing something wrong here". If any of the choices win, the government will be terrible so I say let none of them truly win.

As for the OP, vote for who you agree with. Sticking together with those who share just one part of your own personal belief system (and possibly not even that, look at the divides between denominations) will only show you how different you all really are.
 
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I don't think a specific Christian party has enough other policies - it would be a shock for them if they got in and they wouldn't know what to do. Therefore it's better to vote for one of the other big parties.

For my part I will be voting Tory. Labour has done enough damage over the years they have been in and Lib Dem aren't particularly Christian in their views
 
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The election of 2010 - no matter who wins - will signal the beginning of the end of Britain.

My own individual prescription is to opt out of the charade altogether. When you die and approach the Pearly Gates, St Peter will ask the Britons among you one question: did you vote in the 2010 General election? Not "for whom did you vote and/or why"; just did you?
Umm...highly doubt that. He's going to ask: did you vote in X Factor? Which seems to be of more importance to most folk.
 
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Do you know what cheeses me off more than anything, is most campaigns seem to revovle around slagging the other parties off rather than telling us truthfuly what they plan to do.
Also they may all promise these finacial reforms, but I heard it mentioned that until they get into power they don't really know what state the books are in.
 
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I'll be voting Labour because our Labour candidate has proved himself to be an excellent local MP. And because I voted Tory once in 1979 and can't bring myself to repeat the offence.

Not voting is no option as far as I'm concerned. We have a BNP candidate standing in our constituency. I won't have their being elected on my conscience.
 
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Do you know what cheeses me off more than anything, is most campaigns seem to revovle around slagging the other parties off rather than telling us truthfuly what they plan to do.
Also they may all promise these finacial reforms, but I heard it mentioned that until they get into power they don't really know what state the books are in.

Parties who lie to get elected (i.e. all of them!) make me sick. It's not a game, it's peoples' lives. Be honest, tell us what you plan to do, and how you plan to do it, and if you don't get elected, it's because the people didn't like your ideas. The people is what it should always be about, not petty points scoring over an opposition political party.
 
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Parties who lie to get elected (i.e. all of them!) make me sick. It's not a game, it's peoples' lives. Be honest, tell us what you plan to do, and how you plan to do it, and if you don't get elected, it's because the people didn't like your ideas. The people is what it should always be about, not petty points scoring over an opposition political party.

I have no idea what you're describing, but it's not politics. :p
 
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Let's see.
The Lib-Dems have people like Jenny Tonge, who is well known for her support of terror attacks against innocent Israelis, and many others who support boycotts of Israeli goods, services and academics (but not Arabs, strangely; nor Chinese; nor Ukrainian. Only Jews)
The Labour Party have people like Corbyn, who is well know for his support of terror attacks against innocent Israelis, and many others who support boycotts of Israeli goods, services and academics (but not Arabs, strangely; nor Chinese; nor Ukrainian. Only Jews)
I'll be voting Conservative, then. As a Jew, I feel safer without trendy lefties having any power at all
 
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Let's see.
The Lib-Dems have people like Jenny Tonge, who is well known for her support of terror attacks against innocent Israelis, and many others who support boycotts of Israeli goods, services and academics (but not Arabs, strangely; nor Chinese; nor Ukrainian. Only Jews)
The Labour Party have people like Corbyn, who is well know for his support of terror attacks against innocent Israelis, and many others who support boycotts of Israeli goods, services and academics (but not Arabs, strangely; nor Chinese; nor Ukrainian. Only Jews)
I'll be voting Conservative, then. As a Jew, I feel safer without trendy lefties having any power at all

I'm assuming you haven't heard of the contoversy surrounding Tory MEPs?
 
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