It takes two to tango

[redleghunter]

(Tanya)
The activating force of the creator must continuosly be present in the thing created to give it Life and existence.

The activating force are the self same letters of speech that
constitute the ten utterences by which all things were created.

Not give Life but bring into being.

"Forever, O God Your Word stands in the heavens."

Why I referred you to John 1

 

[Robban]

Aah, sorry about the computer....

do you want the link here or on your profile page?

Here would be nice, thanks.

 

[brinny]

Here would be nice, thanks.

Ok, here it is...

God bless you

 

[Robban]

Ok, here it is...

God bless you

Thanks for posting.

Though I thought it was happening now.

 

[brinny]

Thanks for posting.

Though I thought it was happening now.

Sorry it was a Prayer Breakfast from 2012.

 

[Robban]

Maybe the "us" was referring to the Holy Spirit or sometimes called the Holy Ghost in the Trinity that explained throughout the Bible.

Also remember that the only sin Jesus said was unpardonable was to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.

Example in Mark 3:20-30

Now what we can notice about that situation, is that the pharisees were not slandering Jesus, Himself, or even God, but rather they were slandering what was inside of Jesus, that allowed Jesus to cast out demons from people. So they were slandering against the Holy Spirit, and this obviously really upset Jesus and God to the point that Jesus said they would never be forgiven for it.

So here we see the entire Trinity together in action, Jesus being the Son of God yet also the Son of Man as Jesus was born of God but also born in a human body, and God is Jesus' father and speaks to Jesus, and Jesus carries out God's will, and then there is yet the third in the Trinity, the Holy Spirit/Ghost that dwells inside of Jesus, and clearly Jesus has immense respect for the Holy Ghost, much like how someone might have immense respect for a loving mother. I think most of us can recall from our societies how much of an insult it is when someone insults your mother, and how otherwise very peaceful men can become enraged when someone disrespects their mother.

So perhaps the "us" referred to in Genesis and elsewhere is both God and the Holy Ghost, as the Trinity had always been there, such that the coming of Jesus was prophesied long before His birth.

 

[Robban]

Maybe the "us" was referring to the Holy Spirit or sometimes called the Holy Ghost in the Trinity that explained throughout the Bible.

Also remember that the only sin Jesus said was unpardonable was to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.

Example in Mark 3:20-30

Now what we can notice about that situation, is that the pharisees were not slandering Jesus, Himself, or even God, but rather they were slandering what was inside of Jesus, that allowed Jesus to cast out demons from people. So they were slandering against the Holy Spirit, and this obviously really upset Jesus and God to the point that Jesus said they would never be forgiven for it.

So here we see the entire Trinity together in action, Jesus being the Son of God yet also the Son of Man as Jesus was born of God but also born in a human body, and God is Jesus' father and speaks to Jesus, and Jesus carries out God's will, and then there is yet the third in the Trinity, the Holy Spirit/Ghost that dwells inside of Jesus, and clearly Jesus has immense respect for the Holy Ghost, much like how someone might have immense respect for a loving mother. I think most of us can recall from our societies how much of an insult it is when someone insults your mother, and how otherwise very peaceful men can become enraged when someone disrespects their mother.

So perhaps the "us" referred to in Genesis and elsewhere is both God and the Holy Ghost, as the Trinity had always been there, such that the coming of Jesus was prophesied long before His birth.

He consults with His heavenly household,
like regarding Ahab, Micah said to him;

"I saw the Lord seated on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing beside Him, on His right and on His left."

(1Kings 22:19)

He made man in His own image, in His own image He made them (man and woman)

 

[Robban]

Why cannot it be a cover up?

The first 28 yrs of Davids life he was seen as, treated as and called a bastard, he was an outcast to his own family.

First when the Prophet Samuel came to annoint him as king,
did his mother open her lips and say the now well known Words;

"The building block that the builders stumbled over has become the cornerstone." (paraphrased from memory)

It would be more authentic than cooking up a story about virgin births.

In Luke 1.32b,
..........and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his
forefather David.

So he had forefathers?