Israel's future and Pat: Your view

[KEPLER]

Pattern broke.

You know KEPLER,.......Moses broke the Patter of God's Ways and He was not premitted into the Promised Land.

We all must take this admonition.
I know I do, with much Fear of God.


Be Made Whole in Christ,
Connie

Please stop prattling on about patterns. Deal with the text.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Please stop prattling on about patterns. Deal with the text.

Pattern Broken.



Be made Whole in Christ,
Connie

 

[KEPLER]

Be made Whole in Christ,
Connie

I have been; I am; and I will be. Thanks be to God.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

So, the High-Priests were to what?[/U][/B]

1.) Point the finger and Criticise when their brethren sinned?
The Law already tells them what Sin is and it was there as a condemner when they
broke God's Law until they brought their sacrifice.


2.) Or Was He to interceed for the sins of the people and his own with the blood,
carrying their beast of burdens to the altar?

It is 2. <------------------AMEN, ED THAT'S RIGHT!!

So what is our role being In Christ?

Which we have been Empowered to do PERFECTLY IN CHRIST.

I hope you are not saying "to intercede" for each other.

You had just said it's 2!

IT'S THE PATTERN -------------> 1.) PRAY TO JESUS ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE AND BE HOPEFUL IN HIS STRENGTH AND THEN 2.) CARRY THEIR BURDENS.




His eyes opening some,
Connie

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Num 20:7-8
7 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.
KJV

Pray for Israel and God will cause Water to come out of the rock for Israel.


Ed,....now that WASN'T so hard to get through! LOL




Be Made Whole more,
Connie

 

[Tishri1]

Connie must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
Ed must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
Trishri1 must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
OnTheWay must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
GraceInHim must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
KEPLER must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
visionary must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
Rut must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
Scholar in training must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.
tylerjms7 must not break, in Christ, GOD'S PATTERN.

WE ARE ALL ADMONISHED IN SCRIPTURE TO NOT BREAK GOD'S PATTERN.
ALTHOUGH, TO EACH IN HIS TIME.

amen that was awesome!

 

[KEPLER]

Pray for Israel and God will cause Water to come out of the rock for Israel.

DOH!!

It ALREADY HAS come out of the Rock for Isreal:

For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered over the desert.

End of story.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

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Ed,

Let's see this PATTERN too, if we both can agree - again!!!

Num 20:7-8
7 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.KJV

Yes, we are TO SPEAK TO JESUS FOR OURSELVES AND FOR THE BENIFIT OF OTHERS AS THE PATTERN SHOWS.

WE ARE BOTH IN AGREEMENT ON THIS!

Now,........that we see this PATTERN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT,.....HOW IS THIS FULFILLED IN NEW TESTAMENT BELIEVERS.

What was Moses to say, God didn't give Him words to speak.
So what was Moses to say anyway? Scripture answers that.

So, was Moses just to speak to Jesus (The Rock) to simply start out by addressing God -- possibly?



THE PATTERN OF SPEAKING IN THE NEW TESTMENT:

Mark 14:36
36 And he (JESUS) said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; KJV

Rom 8:15
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
KJV

Gal 4:6
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.KJV

Is that as simple as it really needed to be. YES.


BUT THE STORY (THE PATTERN) IS NOT FIISHED:

Now, God tells Moses that He didn't believe
to sanctify Him (God) before the eyes of the children of Israel.
We read:

]Num 20:12
12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel,KJV

What is the Holy Spirit's work in a new believer and in those who endure till the end? ----->HE SANCTIFY'S THEM when they believe, THROUGH THE hearing of WORD'S OF GOD THROUGH THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

Won't they obtain sanctifcation through our Mercy unto them? Yes.

[qote]Rom 11:31
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Rom 11:32
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. <---------THE WHOLE COMPLETE OLIVE TREE
[/quote]


So what do we do with this now.......do we just float on our holy-clouds now? No. ---------------> Where others aren't believing you have Mercy now for them where God might be Sanctified in their eyes. Speak to the Rock of your own Salvation and want Salvation for the rest of THE OLIVE TREE - those who are to come in. Believe God's goodness for others. Stand with your Rod (don't know what this is yet---I do have somewhat of a Revelation though)for without Faith it is impossible to Please God. Because Moses didn't believe God (where it came to Israel) he didn't get to go into the Promised Land. We must Believe God's goodness (for also remanent of the Children of Israel) lest we too, come short of entering the Rest of God.


GOD'S PATTERNS ARE RIGHT ON.
GOD'S PATTERS SURE TODAY!!!!!

DON'T MISS THEM!!!


ALL BE MADE WHOLE,
Connie

 

[Jesus Is Real]

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DOH!! <----------what does this mean?

It ALREADY HAS come out of the Rock for Isreal:


End of story.

KEEP ON READING.........

1 Cor 10:1-9
10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.

9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.KJV

Could we be tempting Christ, by not LOVING ISRAEL AND HAVING MERCY ON THEM THAT THROUGH OUR MERCY THEY MIGHT OBTAIN MERCY?

HAS YOUR MERCY ENTENDED THEM MERCY THEN AND IS IT WORKING TOWARDS EVEN YOUR PATIENCE?

COULD WE BE TEMPTING CHRIST BY NOT EXTENDING MERCY TO ISRAEL?

YES. ------> So the Root is holding you and me which can cast us out if we don't hear God's Love.


ISRAEL IS PARTLY BLINDED FOR YOUR SALVATION.
COULD WE BE TEMPTING CHRIST BY NOT HEARING THIS?

YES. ------> So the Root is holding you and me which can cast us out if we don't hear God's Love.

But it's not the end of the Story as you say,...it's actually
about to really begin it's completion for them once the Gentiles have come in,....once we really know that it's about LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR AND NOT BREAKING GOD'S PATTERNS, SIR.


Don't Miss out on God's Love,
Connie

 

[Tishri1]

http://www.ffoz.org/downloads/Questions-Regarding-Hebrews.pdf
please refer to pages 9-10....this Ministry is offering some freebees to anyone interested in the study of this Book...

 

[KEPLER]

Could we be tempting Christ, by not LOVING ISRAEL AND HAVING MERCY ON THEM THAT THROUGH OUR MERCY THEY MIGHT OBTAIN MERCY?

NO. It is not My mercy that counts.

And just how was it that they tempted the LORD, anyways?

STICK. WITH. THE. TEXT.

Stop blabbering about patterns. That has NOTHING to do with the TEXT.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

I have been; I am; and I will be. Thanks be to God.

ok Pergamos,

There only one God.

THIS IS THE PATTERN:
DON'T LEAVE THIS OUT:

1 Cor 15:57
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Cor 15:58
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.KJV

Many are not seeing the PATTERN OF GOD----NOR CAN they see HIS WORKS,....THAT MEANS A NEAR UNTO "NO REWARD" JUST LIKE MOSES FAIT - NO PROMISED LAND. Many worship who they know not. But God's Love is so vast HE WILL GATHER HIS OWN. -------- no worries!!!

THERE IS ONE GOD:
The God of Israel whom we now call out 'Abba Father'.
Can you at say the God of Israel is your God???

Be Made Whole in Christ' Love,
Connie

 

[KEPLER]

ok Pergamos,

In your next post, you will apologize for that.

Can you at say the God of Israel is your God???

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who became Incarnate in the FLesh of jesus Christ, fully God and Fully Man, who died on a Cross for my sins and the sins of the whole world, who was raised on the thrid day and now sits at the Right Hand of the Father...

That God? Yeah, that's my God.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

NO. It is not My mercy that counts.

PATTERN BROKEN.

RIGHT PATTERN IS-----> YES IT DOES MY FRIEND. GOD SO HONORS YOUR MERCY FOR ISRAEL, IT IS WRITTEN.

And just how was it that they tempted the LORD, anyways?

Read your Bible (Exodus - Numbers) and we are admonished not to tempt Christ as some did and did not enter into God's Rest. Read it and see the mirror for youself as I have to too. And when you repent over the same things then in time we can minister to other without a club in your hand/in my hand.

By your emotion icon you don't look like your at rest, friend.

God does say through Paul that God sees our Mercy and through our Mercy God will have Mercy on them. Haven't you read this in Romans? It's pretty precious!!!

Rom 11:30-31
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
KJV

Be Made Whole in Christ' Love,
Connie

 

[KEPLER]

PATTERN BROKEN.

There is no pattern. Stop the babbling.

RIGHT PATTERN IS-----> YES IT DOES MY FRIEND. GOD SO HONORS YOUR MERCY FOR ISRAEL, IT IS WRITTEN.

God honors my mercy towards everyone. Not merely Israel. Read James.

Read your Bible (Exodus - Numbers) and we are admonished not to tempt Christ as some did and did not enter into God's Rest. Read it and see the mirror for youself as I have to too. And when you repent over the same things then in time we can minister to other without a club in your hand/in my hand.

Hebrews supplants the Jewish interpretation of the OT. Christ is my sabbath rest, and I am ALREADY in Him. Read Hebrews.

By your emotion icon you don't look like your at rest, friend.

Psychoanalyzing me by my emoticon?? Now THAT's funny!

God does say through Paul that God sees our Mercy and through our Mercy God will have Mercy on them. Haven't you read this in Romans? It's pretty precious!!!

That has been happening for 2000 years. But we also know that when we have mercy, it is not us, but God working in us.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

In your next post, you will apologize for that.


The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who became Incarnate in the FLesh of jesus Christ, fully God and Fully Man, who died on a Cross for my sins and the sins of the whole world, who was raised on the thrid day and now sits at the Right Hand of the Father...

That God? Yeah, that's my God.

You have the words but where's the heart for The God of Israel
through whom Jesus came.

There is a doctrine which is a stumbling block to the Children of Israel, when one can't stand in Mercy for them it stands JESUS SO SPEAKS. HE SAID IT,.......I'm just being a Witness to His Words.

Rev 2:12-17
12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
KJV

Lo, I have told you.
Connie

 

[KEPLER]

There is no pattern. Stop the babbling.


God honors my mercy towards everyone. Not merely Israel. Read James.


Hebrews supplants the Jewish interpretation of the OT. Christ is my sabbath rest, and I am ALREADY in Him. Read Hebrews.


Psychoanalyzing me by my emoticon?? Now THAT's funny!


That has been happening for 2000 years. But we also know that when we have mercy, it is not us, but God working in us.

Oh, and what about the apology you owe me for that Pergamos crack? I'm waiting.....

 

[Jesus Is Real]

There is no pattern. Stop the babbling.


God honors my mercy towards everyone. Not merely Israel. Read James.


Hebrews supplants the Jewish interpretation of the OT. Christ is my sabbath rest, and I am ALREADY in Him. Read Hebrews.


Psychoanalyzing me by my emoticon?? Now THAT's funny!


That has been happening for 2000 years. But we also know that when we have mercy, it is not us, but God working in us.

Then consider showing it for Israel you are of THE SAME TREE.
This is a thread about ISRAEL.....so show the LOVE.

I have been quoting from Hebrew's as well all day long.
Consider listening ok friend.


Your in my prayers.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Oh, and what about the apology you owe me for that Pergamos crack? I'm waiting.....

Has not this WORD been your mirror as well?

I owe Love unto you and I have given it in much patience.
We all must receive all of God's Rebukes---we can't pick and choose anymore.....I had to at one point too!!! Boy did I. I have said nothing wrong to you that Christ isn't saying.
I own you no apology,...but your near to apologize to me calling me names of 'babbling' and such.
But I have given space here.....right?


Read what it says back to me,..that's what I'm waiting on!

 

[Tishri1]

http://www.torahresource.com/English Articles/Spirituality Torah vs NC.pdf
here is a very interesting article that explains what we are discussing as Spiritual Terms...