Israel is planning to administer FOURTH Covid shot

[KCfromNC]

Ok, let's think about it. Is 59% a majority, or is it a minority?

59% of what is a majority of what, specifically?

 

[Strathos]

The majority of people injured in car accidents were wearing seatbelts. Therefore, seatbelts don't do anything to protect you from car accidents. That's your logic here.

 

[Aldebaran]

59% of what is a majority of what, specifically?

Are you trying to complicate something that is simple in order to twist the facts?

If start with 100 rubber duckies, and you remove 59 of them, you're left with a minority of what you started with. You've removed 59% of the rubber duckies. Any time you have more than 50%, you have a majority.
Understand? If not, I'll try a simpler set of figures, this time using .

 

[KCfromNC]

Are you trying to complicate something that is simple in order to twist the facts?

hmm, starting off by poisoning the well. Resorting to personal attacks right of the bat doesn't give me much hope.

If start with 100 rubber duckies, and you remove 59 of them, you're left with a minority of what you started with. You've removed 59% of the rubber duckies. Any time you have more than 50%, you have a majority.

I notice this isn't actually an answer. It is almost as if there's a need to change the subject in response to a simple clarifying question. That doesn't bode well.

 

[Aldebaran]

hmm, starting off by poisoning the well. Resorting to personal attacks right of the bat doesn't give me much hope.


I notice this isn't actually an answer. It is almost as if there's a need to change the subject in response to a simple clarifying question. That doesn't bode well.

I'm glad you finally understand. I couldn't explain it in any more basic way without risking an insult to the hearer's intelligence. I suppose I could post the Webster's dictionary definition of what a majority is, but I'll leave that to anyone who still doesn't know, which I hope is nobody.

 

[pitabread]

Ok, let's think about it. Is 59% a majority, or is it a minority? Think about it for as long as you need to before responding.
In the meantime, "common sense" tells us that 59% is a majority.

I already explained interpretation of these stats several posts ago (re: multi variables). If you want to address those points you can. Otherwise I don't see any reason to go on this tangent.

 

[pitabread]

. I suppose I could post the Webster's dictionary definition of what a majority is, but I'll leave that to anyone who still doesn't know, which I hope is nobody.

Just curious but have you ever taken an actual statistics course or done any real world work with statistics or other data sets?

Or are you just armchairing it here?

 

[pitabread]

The majority of people injured in car accidents were wearing seatbelts. Therefore, seatbelts don't do anything to protect you from car accidents. That's your logic here.

Exactly. This is why in statistics it's important to understand what is really driving the data, so as not to develop erroneous interpretations.

This is the sort of thing taught in stats courses.

 

[FireDragon76]

I don't know. Mostly the states with high rates have low vaccination rates, but that's not true for Florida. So it's reasonable to think that it's behavior. I assume the governor's attitude reflects at least a substantial part of the population. So you're probably right.

But there is another possibility. In NJ I note that places with high rates include those with low vaccination, but also one county with reasonable vaccination but lots of shore. Indeed our shore counties are currently a lot higher than the rest o the State. I've got to wonder if vacationers are both increasing the effective population and hanging out in dangerous ways that might not be typical of others. The same could be true in Florida. Of course the State could adopt policies to try and moderate that, and they aren't.

Another thing to consider is that people in Florida spend more time indoors in the summer months than in other states.

The last time I really went anywhere in public was at the start of the Delta surge. Maybe 1 in 4 people were wearing masks. That was enough to convince me to returning to staying home.

 

[KCfromNC]

I'm glad you finally understand. I couldn't explain it in any more basic way without risking an insult to the hearer's intelligence. I suppose I could post the Webster's dictionary definition of what a majority is, but I'll leave that to anyone who still doesn't know, which I hope is nobody.

I can only image if there was an answer which didn't undermine the talking points from previous posts, we'd be reading that now instead of this.

 

[KCfromNC]

Exactly. This is why in statistics it's important to understand what is really driving the data, so as not to develop erroneous interpretations.

Yep. For example, something like the age of the patients, combined with vaccination rates being quite different among different age groups in the population.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/p...strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated

In the case of vaccine effectiveness vs. severe disease, it is the fact that both vaccination status and risk of severe disease are systematically higher in the older age group that makes overall effectiveness numbers if estimated without stratifying by age misleading, producing a paradoxical result that the overall effectiveness (67.5%) is much lower than the effectiveness for either of the age groups (91.8% and 85.2%).

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