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The Alternative to a rapture

Firstly; the general definition of a ‘rapture’, means being taken to live in heaven. This is believed by many, to happen before the Lord punishes the world and destroys His enemies. But scripture does not clearly say that anyone will be taken to heaven, excepting for the two Witnesses, Revelation 11:12, who will be the last of the Christian martyrs killed for their faith during the 42 month period when Satan has world control.

The belief in a general rapture can only be made by inference and assumption. It has gained wide acceptance because it’s the easy way out. We must discard any pretentious ideas of escape and removal from the earth. That idea directly opposes the Great Commission and the Words of Jesus where He says that it is impossible for humans to go to heaven. John 3:13, John 17:15, Revelation 2:25

So: what are God’s Plans for His faithful people?

We live today, in a time of worldwide unrest and change, especially in the Middle East region. Many Bible Prophecies tell us that the Lord will clear and cleanse the Holy Land. Deuteronomy 32:34-43. Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7

This dramatic event, the Lord’s terrible day of vengeance and wrath, will change the world. It will result in the formation of a One World Government, Daniel 7:23-24, but the Christian peoples will travel to and live in their heritage, of the entire Holy Land area, fulfilling their destiny of being Gods Light to the world and His witnesses to the nations; Isaiah 48:3-8, Matthew 5:14-16, Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27 This scenario is confirmed by Isaiah 35…by the Way of Holiness….those people the Lord has redeemed, will enter Zion, with praise and thanksgiving, And in Romans 9:24-26, we Christians will be told: we are the children of the Living God, in the very same place as ancient Israel was rejected. Psalms 37:29, +

Friends and brethren, we look forward to an amazing future, where we can be a part of Gods wonderful Plan for His faithful peoples and enjoy His Blessings as we live in peace and prosperity under His protection. Ezekiel 38 & 39 demonstrate how the Lord will protect us from enemies.

When Jesus Returns, then the Prophecy in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 will take place. Those Christians who have proved their faith will meet Jesus in the air then be transported to Jerusalem, where He will be for the Millennium.

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And yout thoughts on 1 Thess 4:15 that the LIVING are raised !

In verse 16 the LORD , himself will decend from heaven .

In verse 17 , will be CAUGHT AWAY // HARPAZ0 , at the samr time , and with them in the clouds , and so we shall

be with the LORD !!

AND there is no GREEK word for RAPTURE at ALL , period .

And there a Greek word COMI G // PAROUIA , in 2 Thess 2:1 .

And te Greek word , DEPARTURE // APOSTASIA

And in GAL 1:4 a word , RESCUE // EXAIREO , which mens to PLUCK OUT . and there a few more !!

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yout thoughts on 1 Thess 4:15 that the LIVING are raised !
1 Thess 4:15-17, is not a 'rapture to heaven;. Jesus will have departed from heaven; He raises those people who have kept strong in their faith, to meet Him in the earths atmosphere, then to be transported to Jerusalem; where He will be for the Millennium. Those people will be assigned tasks in the Kingdom. Revelation 5:10
Those who have died, verse 16b, are ONLY the martyrs killed during the Great Trib, They will be brought back to life. Rev 20:4-5 As mortal people.

There is no sensible reason for anyone to be taken to live in heaven.
 
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1 Thess 4:15-17, is not a 'rapture to heaven;. Jesus will have departed from heaven; He raises those people who have kept strong in their faith, to meet Him in the earths atmosphere, then to be transported to Jerusalem; where He will be for the Millennium. Those people will be assigned tasks in the Kingdom. Revelation 5:10
Those who have died, verse 16b, are ONLY the martyrs killed during the Great Trib, They will be brought back to life. Rev 20:4-5 As mortal people.

There is no sensible reason for anyone to be taken to live in heaven.
And in 1 COR 6:2 we will GOVERN the UNIVERE !!

And we wil GOVERN ANGELS !!

May be Christ will give all who DON'T want to go to GOD'S , UNIVERSE a spot some where , maybe ??

Do you believe that 1 COR 6:2-2 is spurious ??

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And in 1 COR 6:2 we will GOVERN the UNIVERE !!

And we wil GOVERN ANGELS !!

May be Christ will give all who DON'T want to go to GOD'S , UNIVERSE a spot some where , maybe ??

Do you believe that 1 COR 6:2-2 is spurious ??

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WHEN, Dan?
What will happen before that takes place?
 
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WHEN, Dan?
What will happen before that takes place?
And that is very easy and most of best verse are in 1 Thess 3 :13 where you see the word COMING //PAROUSIA

and that same WORD , COMING // PAROUSIA , is seen in 2 Thess 2:1 >

And in Gal 1:4 , you will see the word RESCUE // EXAIREO , and means to PLUCK to take away .

And the BEST one is in 2 THESS 2 :3 No one should THOOROUGHLY deceive you in NOT // ME , is a

DISJUNCATIVE PARICILE NEGATIVE , meaning do notttttttttttt Fall , not one way , because the DEPARTURE should come

FIRST // PROPOS and the MAN OF SIN , SHOULD be REVEALED the son of DESTRUCTION .

And verse 4 is a good read also

And verse 5 says , some 2000 years ago Paul says , Do you NOT remember that , BEING YET with you ,

I spoke these things TO YOU ??

And they new who the HINDERING , was , and it seem to me , the one HINDERING , is either

the HOLY SPIRIT or the BODY of CHRIST , and believe it is BOTH >

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Jeremiah 11:6-8 The Lord said: Proclaim the terms of the Covenant to Judah. I gave solemn warning to your forefathers, obey Me – I told them. But they did not obey, so I brought upon them all the penalties that I had warned about.
Both Israel and Judah were exiled from the Land, as punishment for their sins. Jeremiah 2:1-13

Jeremiah 11:9-14 The Lord says: Now, the inhabitants of Judah and the citizens of Jerusalem conspire against Me, both the House of Israel and the House of Judah have gone back to the sins of their forefathers. Therefore, I am about to bring upon them a disaster from which they cannot escape. They may cry to Me for help, but I will not listen. Do not pray for these people, for I will not listen to them when they call to Me in the hour of their disaster.
Those Jews in Israel and the rest of the Israelites scattered around the world, who refuse to acknowledge and obey the Lord, will not be protected in “the hour of disaster”.

Jeremiah 11:15-17 What right have My people to be in My holy place, with their sinful ways? Can any sacrifice or offering atone for your evil ways and ward off the disaster that threatens you? Now, you will feel sharp anguish, once you were His holy people, now, with the roar of a mighty storm, He will burn up and consume you. The Lord, who had planted you has decreed disaster for both the House of Israel and the House of Judah because of their evil ways, provoking His anger.
burn up and consume’ - The coming fire judgement, prophesied over 70 times. Isaiah 30:26

Jeremiah 12:14 These are the words of the Lord about all those evil neighbours who have encroached onto the Land which I allotted to My people Israel, as their holding: I shall uproot them from their places and I shall uproot the House of Judah from among them.
Jeremiah 21:14 I shall punish you as your deeds deserve, I shall kindle a fire in your Land, it will devour everything around it.

Jeremiah 25:30-33 The Lord roars from on high, He thunders from His dwelling place, He shouts against all the inhabitants of the Land. The great noise reaches the ends of the earth, the Lord brings a charge against all mankind and has handed the wicked over to the sword. Ruin spreads from nation to nation from a worldwide mighty tempest and those slain on that day will lie scattered from one end of the earth to the other, they will be as dung spread over the ground. Psalm 18:7-15, Isaiah 66: 15-17, Zeph. 3:8

Isaiah 29:5-6 Yet the horde of your enemies will crumble into dust. Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come from the Lord with thunder, earthquake and a flame of devouring fire.
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eference: REB, NIV, KJV. Some verses abridged.

This terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, will bring severe judgement to all the inhabitants of the Middle East, Ezekiel 30:1-5. The Coronal Mass Ejection that the Lord will use on that Day will affect the whole world, and then Jeremiah 30,31 and Ezekiel 36, tell us how His righteous people will gather in all the Holy Land, to be His people and the Lord, their God. Romans 9:24-26
 
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Jeremiah 11:6-8 The Lord said: Proclaim the terms of the Covenant to Judah. I gave solemn warning to your forefathers, obey Me – I told them. But they did not obey, so I brought upon them all the penalties that I had warned about.
Both Israel and Judah were exiled from the Land, as punishment for their sins. Jeremiah 2:1-13

Jeremiah 11:9-14 The Lord says: Now, the inhabitants of Judah and the citizens of Jerusalem conspire against Me, both the House of Israel and the House of Judah have gone back to the sins of their forefathers. Therefore, I am about to bring upon them a disaster from which they cannot escape. They may cry to Me for help, but I will not listen. Do not pray for these people, for I will not listen to them when they call to Me in the hour of their disaster.
Those Jews in Israel and the rest of the Israelites scattered around the world, who refuse to acknowledge and obey the Lord, will not be protected in “the hour of disaster”.

Jeremiah 11:15-17 What right have My people to be in My holy place, with their sinful ways? Can any sacrifice or offering atone for your evil ways and ward off the disaster that threatens you? Now, you will feel sharp anguish, once you were His holy people, now, with the roar of a mighty storm, He will burn up and consume you. The Lord, who had planted you has decreed disaster for both the House of Israel and the House of Judah because of their evil ways, provoking His anger.
burn up and consume’ - The coming fire judgement, prophesied over 70 times. Isaiah 30:26

Jeremiah 12:14 These are the words of the Lord about all those evil neighbours who have encroached onto the Land which I allotted to My people Israel, as their holding: I shall uproot them from their places and I shall uproot the House of Judah from among them.
Jeremiah 21:14 I shall punish you as your deeds deserve, I shall kindle a fire in your Land, it will devour everything around it.

Jeremiah 25:30-33 The Lord roars from on high, He thunders from His dwelling place, He shouts against all the inhabitants of the Land. The great noise reaches the ends of the earth, the Lord brings a charge against all mankind and has handed the wicked over to the sword. Ruin spreads from nation to nation from a worldwide mighty tempest and those slain on that day will lie scattered from one end of the earth to the other, they will be as dung spread over the ground. Psalm 18:7-15, Isaiah 66: 15-17, Zeph. 3:8

Isaiah 29:5-6 Yet the horde of your enemies will crumble into dust. Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come from the Lord with thunder, earthquake and a flame of devouring fire.
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eference: REB, NIV, KJV. Some verses abridged.

This terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, will bring severe judgement to all the inhabitants of the Middle East, Ezekiel 30:1-5. The Coronal Mass Ejection that the Lord will use on that Day will affect the whole world, and then Jeremiah 30,31 and Ezekiel 36, tell us how His righteous people will gather in all the Holy Land, to be His people and the Lord, their God. Romans 9:24-26
And what you wrote is truely God"s word , BUT 1 Cor 6:2 and 3 does not FAZE YOU and 1 Cor 12:15-17 says that

we his , we are his HANDS , we are his EARS , we are his EYES , we are BODY , we are his HEARING , we are HIS

and SENSE of HEARING , we are HIS SENSE of SMELL , in other words we are CHRIST !

And I donot have the time to say , but here it is , That our EYES have not seen , NOR out EARS have

NOT , seen , what THINGS Christ has perpared for us that LOVE HIM !

And the WHOLE UNIVERSE is OURS !!

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