Isn't this a bit sexist?

[ChristOurCaptain]

I sure would not want to see topless rallies in my area. That is just uncivilized, and I would appreciate if police did something about it, should it ever happen.

The police? Do something about this? In Sweden?

 

[jminnesota]

well i just think police have better things to worry about. then walking around a beach making sure women keep there breasts covered up. hey you put that bikini top back on you could hurt someone lol.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Our largest sex organ is our brain, not our genitals.

John
NZ

Nope. Our skin is the largest.

-Dan.

 

[Gadarene]

Nope. Our skin is the largest.

-Dan.

whatever the largest sex organ is, mine's the biggest

 

[jminnesota]

well skin is beautiful

 

[TheDag]

Oh my goodness, what delicious hypocritical irony. It would be sexist to make laws about what swimwear men can wear, but not to make laws about women going shirtless? Do tell.

You really need to get some comprehension skills. Not just hewre but in other threads your totally misreading what is said. I said it would be sexist if they made rules about what swimwear men can and can't wear but not make rules about what swimwear women can wear. Of course if you totally ignore the post I quoted which mentioned making it illegal for overweight guys to wear speedos then one can easily draw the wrong conclusion you have. This is not the first thread you have done this in recently so it seems to be a habit for you or deliberate.

Breasts are not 'sex organs'. They play no role in reproduction. A woman without breasts can have sex and children as easily as a woman with them. A woman lacking any actual sex organs will have extreme difficulty with this and may need medical help.

Never once said breasts were sex organs

No where does the law say 'areas generally considered private' as you seem to think it means.[/quote]
Once again more false claims by you Jade. I never once said the law says 'areas generally considered private'. I said society not laws. Tell you what how about you go to work topless one day and post photos as evidence and if your boss says nothing and you don't get arrested travelling like that on public transport then I will admit I was wrong and that society does not expect women to cover their breasts. If you want to change that societal expectation go ahead I have no problem with that at all. Fact is at the moment a woman walking the streets with no clothing on upper body would be as unacceptable as a male walking around with his penis showing.

So either the law has just ruled that men cannot go shirtless, or it is sexist in restricting only women from doing so.

So you think there is no difference at all between the male and female body. You think they are identical do you? If not then this claim makes no sense. Hey lets follow your suggestion and go back to the bad old days when women were walking out of hospitals after being told there was no major problem with their health and having heart attacks in the car park. Why did that happen? Because it was assumed male and female bodies worked exactly the same way where in reality symptoms for men and women about to have heart attacks are different. When they only did tests on men they didn't realise womens symptoms for heart attacks were different. But hey that would be sexist to treat women differently despite evidence their bodies work slightly differently in this regards. Why do you hate women so much that you want them to be ignored when they are about to have a heart attack? If you don't then apply same logic here and aclnowledge women are different to men.

 

[TheDag]

really the only thing trully a sex organ would be a penis of a man and vigina area of the female.

no the penis would not be considered a sex organ. It is one way the male body removes bodily waste.

well i just think police have better things to worry about. then walking around a beach making sure women keep there breasts covered up. hey you put that bikini top back on you could hurt someone lol.

Couldn't agree more

 

[RainbowDashIsBestPony]

no the penis would not be considered a sex organ. It is one way the male body removes bodily waste.

The vagina serves the same function. What are sex organs if an additional function for waste removal disqualifies them?

 

[Gadarene]

no the penis would not be considered a sex organ.

Er.....what

 

[jminnesota]

yea the other day my wife and i were at the store and this woman was breastfeeding her baby. seems like older people were more uptight about it then younger so i think older people still think breasts are for sex only and should be covered where as younger people have seen breasts before so its not that big of a deal.

and like i said most bikinis dont hide much and if a woman wears a tight white shirt or tight any shirt you can see there breasts so again its like whats the big issue.

 

[jminnesota]

and if the law let women walk topless only ones that felt good about there bodies would or those that feel its ok if other guys other then there husbands can look at them. there are lot of husbands that would probably be jelous if other guys where checking out there wifes breasts at the beach or in public.

 

[RainbowDashIsBestPony]

and if the law let women walk topless only ones that felt good about there bodies would or those that feel its ok if other guys other then there husbands can look at them. there are lot of husbands that would probably be jelous if other guys where checking out there wifes breasts at the beach or in public.

I've seen women get jealous over other women staring at their boyfriends' abs. It's not exactly gender specific.

 

[jminnesota]

yea i know women get jelous over women looking at there men too. just in this example i am saying lets say they let women be topless in public. how many women would sunbathe nude and feel comfy vs women that would be embarassed or shy about it or men who would be jelous if other guys were able to see there wifes bare breasts. i mean most people here feel breasts are not sexual but for feeding babies but the idea of showing there breasts might be ok with some and others would be embarassed. i have seen guys who are embarassed to be shirtless and wear t shirts when they swim in a lake or pool. so its both ways i guess.

 

[TheDag]

The vagina serves the same function. What are sex organs if an additional function for waste removal disqualifies them?

just using the standard set by another poster that if something cvan serve two purposes then it doesn't count

 

[jminnesota]

so if USA came out today and said women can go topless at the beach or public places how many would? and how many would be shy or embarassed about doing it? and what is gods view on women being topless?

 

[elephunky]

I've seen women get jealous over other women staring at their boyfriends' abs. It's not exactly gender specific.

Truuuue that.

 

[jminnesota]

i just think its funny how bikinis get smaller and smaller and on tv they blurr out less and less so its like nudity is not as of a big deal as it use to be i guess.

 

[RainbowDashIsBestPony]

just using the standard set by another poster that if something cvan serve two purposes then it doesn't count

If that's the case, sex organs don't exist.

Edit: unless you're counting internal ones.

 

[Passionate Chicken]

Unless it's already been mentioned in these 58+ pages of replies, it is not true what the OP post #1 says about men being excluded from this bill. (Source)


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This means, Moobs! Are potentially going to be illegal. And a felony. ("Hey mister, what you in here for?" "My Droopers slipped out of my man beater when I cheered the Super Bowl dude!" )

 

[Jade Margery]

You really need to get some comprehension skills. Not just hewre but in other threads your totally misreading what is said. I said it would be sexist if they made rules about what swimwear men can and can't wear but not make rules about what swimwear women can wear. Of course if you totally ignore the post I quoted which mentioned making it illegal for overweight guys to wear speedos then one can easily draw the wrong conclusion you have. This is not the first thread you have done this in recently so it seems to be a habit for you or deliberate.

I'm fairly sure the post about men in speedos was tongue in cheek. But let's just review your stance here. Do tell me what I'm 'misreading'.

a) It is not okay to outlaw certain kinds of swimwear for men to wear unless you also make rules about certain kinds of swimwear for women, because it would be sexist.

b) It is okay to outlaw certain kinds of tops (or lack thereof) for women while not making rules about tops for men. That's not sexist at all.

Are these or are these not your views? And if they are, are you really incapable of seeing how hypocritical, contradictory, and frankly sexist they are?

Never once said breasts were sex organs

Now who is misreading? The purpose of the part of the post you just quoted was to show that women's breasts do not fall under the 'sex organ' part of the law, and that BOTH genders' breasts fall under the 'excreting' part of the law. That women are singled out is what makes it sexist.

Once again more false claims by you Jade. I never once said the law says 'areas generally considered private'. I said society not laws. Tell you what how about you go to work topless one day and post photos as evidence and if your boss says nothing and you don't get arrested travelling like that on public transport then I will admit I was wrong and that society does not expect women to cover their breasts. If you want to change that societal expectation go ahead I have no problem with that at all. Fact is at the moment a woman walking the streets with no clothing on upper body would be as unacceptable as a male walking around with his penis showing.

For starters, where I work everyone is required to wear shirts, men AND women. Secondly, the whole point of this discussion is to point out that arresting women for going topless in public is sexist. It doesn't matter what the societal expectation is. It used to be the societal expectation--and the law--for women to not be able to vote, yet here we are. So saying 'it's what society expects' is a poor argument against any kind of right.

So you think there is no difference at all between the male and female body. You think they are identical do you? If not then this claim makes no sense. Hey lets follow your suggestion and go back to the bad old days when women were walking out of hospitals after being told there was no major problem with their health and having heart attacks in the car park. Why did that happen? Because it was assumed male and female bodies worked exactly the same way where in reality symptoms for men and women about to have heart attacks are different. When they only did tests on men they didn't realise womens symptoms for heart attacks were different. But hey that would be sexist to treat women differently despite evidence their bodies work slightly differently in this regards. Why do you hate women so much that you want them to be ignored when they are about to have a heart attack? If you don't then apply same logic here and aclnowledge women are different to men.

What the heck is this rant even about? I never said there was no difference between men and women. Just because we are different, doesn't mean we don't deserve the same rights. Medicine is not law. Would you like to argue that although African Americans are more susceptible to certain health problems than Caucasians, focusing more on those health problems for them is racist? Because that's pretty much your argument, just with gender instead of race.

Seriously, what?