Islamophobia.

[FanthatSpark]

It depends what that something is. What we did in the past just made things worse.

Thus ,now the past and recent actions by the U.S. under our names over here, over there, because in three short months Russia has plowed threw it like a hot knife through butter making us have to do the same in our 5 year stay in Syria reaping benefits of cheap oil. We cry foul now and seek negotiations (the same negotiations Russia wanted before they got involved) to stop Russia and its a no go now. Russia being a super power too we must join them or go nuclear. That being the worst demise we join them which means we no longer support ISIS as we did for 5 years thus now we start seeing reprisals and or a waking of sleeper cells. This will be mainstream concentration (The same mainstream that omits 5 years U.S. vs 3 months Russia) in fighting terror by terrorizing common Joe and Mary. Brain washing . There comes a time we must take this nation back. We can not trust our reps of foreign policy any longer to commit atrocities in our name. See the phobia? It's classic, as you see it too.

 

[Smidlee]

Yes. Bush did ignore warnings from Richard Clarke and others who were in the Clinton administration. Three thousand dead.

In the past decade Muslim terrorists have killed less than 100 people on American soil.

In the past decade Average Americans have shot and killed over 100,000 people on American soil.

We all have a far greater chance of being killed by an American with a gun than by a Muslim terrorist.

This is the very reason we should refused these refugees. USA is better at producing thugs than jobs so we need to refuse refugees out of compassion so they don't get killed.

 

[Cerberus~Infinite]

I'll play devil's advocate.

How is it irrational to have a fear of a group of people, some of whom want to kill you.

And furthermore, the majority of them who don't want to kill you simply want to impose a form of theocratic tyranny on you so backwards it would make even Fred Phelps cringe.

Now does not excuse irrational responses to that fear or any other fear. I would be for more worried about the gov data basing any group than I would the group being data based. Just like you don't burn your house down to deal with a spider.

 

[Job8]

For those wanting to impose strict entrance criteria for Syrian refugees, or a temporary moratorium on their admittance, on the basis of safety concerns, considering the evidence, are not "Islamophobes."

Islamophobia is another one of those phony buzzwords invented by liberals who are running away from reality. The minute one of their family members or loved ones is blown up or beheaded, they might face the sober reality of a genuine no-holds-barred war by Radical Islamists who believe that innocent civilians, women, and children are fair game. Strangely enough there are some Muslims now calling for the heads of these rabid dogs.

The term "refugee" is a deliberate misnomer for Islamic migrants who are fighting a different war -- invading the west and then taking over to form a Caliphate. These are all phony refugees. And if they were genuine Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States are a lot closer and a lot wealthier than America, which is essentially broke.

 

[Job8]

I heard that much of France went back to "normal" shortly after the attacks.

You heard wrong. France has suddenly admitted that there was a huge intelligence failure two years ago regarding the apprehension of the same people who killed hundreds. Once there is a similar attack on Washington DC, the powers that be will finally wake up and stop talking about "no credible threats". Do they really believe that the Jihadists will advertise their plans, just like the West advertises its bombings and gives them a chance to go underground? The words naive and stupid come to mind.

 

[ecco]

ecco

There are some people who read the Koran liberally.
There are some people who read the Koran literally.
There are some people who read the Bible liberally.
There are some people who read the Bible literally.

That's one of the problems with religion, you can interpret scripture to approve of almost any position.

Believing that god is on your side, is a powerful motivator - for good and for evil.​

One of the problems with atheism is the contempt the atheist has for the religious.

I refer to reading scripture literally or liberally and you read that I have contempt for the religious. Look around some of these threads, you will find some christians who read the bible literally, and some christians who read the bible liberally. There are liberal Muslims and there are those who read literally those parts of the Koran that refer to killing or converting christians. These are the people who make up ISIL.

Christianity didn't have to be divided by western media into two classes, radical or moderate, in order to quell the fear of American's due to the psychotically violent actions of Christians.

That's because protestants and catholics, who killed each other in vast numbers in Europe got over it. In Ireland, that was relatively recently.

This thread is about Islam. Take your contempt for Christianity and make your own thread. Islam is not Christianity.

No it isn't. But neither has a clean record in terms of violent conflict within itself and against "non-believers". Non-believers being anyone who didn't follow their version of of interpreting scripture.

I would agree with you that currently Islam is a bigger threat than Christianity. However, in the 21st Century, neither has killed as many Americans as gun totin' Americans.[/QUOTE]

 

[ecco]

So, I reiterate, engage in links provided in OP to find out why.

Do those links show that christians and muslims have been at war with each other for 1500 years?

 

[ecco]

What do you then think, will reduce the likely hood of these radicals being willing to die to kill other innocent people?

Why call them radicals? They are believers in their holy scripture, that is not radical. I prefer the term Islamist Fundamentalists.

 

[ecco]

That being the worst demise we join them which means we no longer support ISIS as we did for 5 years

We supported ISIS for 5 years?

 

[ecco]

I'll play devil's advocate.

How is it irrational to have a fear of a group of people, some of whom want to kill you.

I guess I am suffering GunsForAllAmericansOphobia.

And furthermore, the majority of them who don't want to kill you simply want to impose a form of theocratic tyranny on you so backwards it would make even Fred Phelps cringe.

You mean backward theocracies like Catholic England which became Protestant England which became Catholic England which became Protestant England.

 

[patrick jane]

Why call them radicals? They are believers in their holy scripture, that is not radical. I prefer the term Islamist Fundamentalists.

They are radical extremists and terrorists. They think the Koran tells them to use terror and fear to help convert the world to Islam. You do know that's their objective right ?

 

[Cerberus~Infinite]

Yes ecco, like that. Only in modern days it's Islam that's the issue.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

You mean backward theocracies like Catholic England which became Protestant England which became Catholic England which became Protestant England.

England at this point in history was among the most advanced countries of its time, and had an even brighter future laid out. Nothing backward about it. It wasn't a theocracy either, it was a monarchy.

 

[Smidlee]

They are radical extremists and terrorists. They think the Koran tells them to use terror and fear to help convert the world to Islam. You do know that's their objective right ?

You don't believe ISIS is following the teaching of the Koran?

 

[Oafman]

It wasn't a theocracy either, it was a monarchy.

Those are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they almost always go hand in hand.

 

[thecolorsblend]

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[FanthatSpark]

Do those links show that christians and muslims have been at war with each other for 1500 years?

If you delve deep enough in the trusting link. What should get your goat is this very real hypothetical that goes like this... A church sends a missionary over to help those in need not knowing they fund ISIS through their tax dollar. This missionary gets beheaded. Thus it is Christians killing Christians in funding. That should get every Christian here appalled . We "trusted" and it killed us. Why? Omittence that no mainstream will tell us "WE" funded a Christian killing machine.

We supported ISIS for 5 years?

Trusting link in OP. ecco, we got to change our news source. Mainstream will not let us know we are the bad guys in this mess (Brain Washing through omittence). Ya got to read ecco, read . Leave out my ranting's in the Trusting link just read up . The article have in-line source gathering . If you look at the dates of some of those posts they are prophetic to whats happening now. As we close borders to plains and ships (Trade) for they "may" have RI's on them yet our allies have already let these people in, its going to make them jump ship as our allies, which is covered in Trusting link in OP.

 

[HondaMan]

People screaming Islamophobia are like the ones playing the race card.

 

[NotreDame]

Why call them radicals? They are believers in their holy scripture, that is not radical. I prefer the term Islamist Fundamentalists.

I think the reason and rationale for calling or describing "them" as "radicals" is because some of "their" views, interpretations, of the Koran and other texts sacred to Muslims is "radical." Stated more precisely, some of the interpretations they espouse are not a rational or reasonable understanding of those texts. Some of their views have been characterized as not mere poor interpretations of the text but as a complete erroneous interpretation of the texts, an interpretation so detached from the plain text as to constitute as "twisting" the text.

I am not venturing an opinion as to whether "they" have indeed misinterpreted or "twisted" the text. I am merely stating the basis upon which many people characterize them as "radicals."

 

[TheBear]

God protect us and all who are in the path of terrorists in islam.

Doubtful, the Christian God seems unable [or unwilling, who can tell] to do anything about Muslim terrorists.

We live in a fallen world.

Does that mean Jahrooshshalom's prayer is in vain? Needs to 'pray harder'? More often? Do more people need to be praying about this? If so, what's minimum number of people required to pray about this before God intervenes? Do they all have to be praying at once, or can their prayers be staggered over time?

How does that work in a fallen world?