Islamophobia.

[brinny]

That's why I made sure to use the word "Islamaphobia" definitively and correctly. Thanks for confirming that I am quite correct.


Why would I? There's nothing valuable I can get from propaganda.


They are temporary allies, the second they can start killing Christians they will. It's their history. A lot of ignorant Americans don't know that at all.

The videos i point out in my signature are a good start.....if you believe the videos are propaganda, you can always research further to verify their authenticity.

Your apparent lack of research/information is coming through in your replies in your posts.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

The videos i point out in my signature are a good start.....

Good start on learning propaganda and becoming a Christian-hater...

if you believe the videos are propaganda, you can always research further to verify their authenticity.

LOL!

Your apparent lack of research/information is coming through in your replies in your posts.

Actually, your lack of knowledge is coming through in your replies in your posts. For starters, there's no such thing as "Kurdistan".

 

[brinny]

Good start on learning propaganda and becoming a Christian-hater...


LOL!


Actually, your lack of knowledge is coming through in your replies in your posts. For starters, there's no such thing as "Kurdistan".

For starters, there's no such thing as "Kurdistan".

please, elaborate.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

please, elaborate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states - no Kurdistan as a sovereign state.

 

[FanthatSpark]

The videos i point out in my signature are a good start.....if you believe the videos are propaganda, you can always research further to verify their authenticity.

Your apparent lack of research/information is coming through in your replies in your posts.

Mayhap make it easier by hyperlinking those signature links? We beez lazy by default .

 

[brinny]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states - no Kurdistan as a sovereign state.

No, Kurdistan is not a "sovereign state", thus the affinity for the quote in my signature that describes their absolute dejection and are amongst the most hated, along with The Roma's (gypsies).

Are you saying that Kurdistan does not exist, including their flag?

 

[brinny]

Mayhap make it easier by hyperlinking those signature links? We beez lazy by default .

LOL! they're not links amigo......just the titles of the videos that can be found on Youtube. If i put the link per se, the whole video would show up, all three of them in my signature ...

ok, i'll do this...

i'll post all three videos here, jus' cuz yu iz a friend, amigo

 

[ArmenianJohn]

No, Kurdistan is not a "sovereign state", thus the affinity for the quote in my signature that describes their absolute dejection and are amongst the most hated, along with The Roma's (gypsies).

Are you saying that Kurdistan does not exist, including their flag?

They are not recognized to exist by any nation. Their flag exists - then again, so does New Jersey's and California's, and the confederate flag... None of them are nations though. Kurdistan doesn't exist. There are Kurdish states that exist but no nation and no "Kurdistan". They are amongst the most hated because they allied themselves with Turkey, believing that Turkey would reward them with a "Kurdistan" if they helped Turkey commit genocide against all the other ethnicities that Turkey wanted to wipe out.

In any case, it's interesting to see that you are a Muslim supporter since you were agreeing with Jahmlooshalom who is clearly anti-Muslim.

 

[brinny]

They are not recognized to exist by any nation. Their flag exists - then again, so does New Jersey's and California's, and the confederate flag... None of them are nations though. Kurdistan doesn't exist. There are Kurdish states that exist but no nation and no "Kurdistan". They are amongst the most hated because they allied themselves with Turkey, believing that Turkey would reward them with a "Kurdistan" if they helped Turkey commit genocide against all the other ethnicities that Turkey wanted to wipe out.

In any case, it's interesting to see that you are a Muslim supporter since you were agreeing with Jahmlooshalom who is clearly anti-Muslim.

That is exactly right. They are not recognized as "existing", which is part of the reason the quote in my signature defines them. It's the same with the Roma's (gypsies). Both are dejected and have, as it were, no place to call "home".

 

[ArmenianJohn]

That is exactly right. They are not recognized as "existing", which is part of the reason the quote in my signature defines them. It's the same with the Roma's (gypsies). Both are dejected and have, as it were, no place to call "home".

The difference is that the Kurds chose that for themselves by allying themselves with Turkey. The Roma are despised most likely for having Indian roots.

The Kurds have a chance to finally get their state and they have a chance to do some good. Let's see what they do in the long term. Based on their track record I don't trust them in the long term but for now they seem to be helping the right side. Still, they're muslim - something your friend Jahrooshalhom is afraid of regardless of whether they're kurdish or ISIS muslims, and there are millions of Americans just like that.

 

[brinny]

The difference is that the Kurds chose that for themselves by allying themselves with Turkey. The Roma are despised most likely for having Indian roots.

The Kurds have a chance to finally get their state and they have a chance to do some good. Let's see what they do in the long term. Based on their track record I don't trust them in the long term but for now they seem to be helping the right side. Still, they're muslim - something your friend Jahrooshalhom is afraid of regardless of whether they're kurdish or ISIS muslims, and there are millions of Americans just like that.

Here's a bit of info on the history of the Kurdish people. Most of the reason they are hated because they refused to give up their independence and refuse to identify as "Arab".

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Here's a bit of info on the history of the Kurdish people. Most of the reason they are hated because they refused to give up their independence and refuse to identify as "Arab".

Wow, that video is a stupid pile of propaganda. The reason the Kurds are largely hated in that part of the world is for the same reason the Turks are largely hated in that part of the world. Most of the lands they occupy were acquired through the butchering and genocide of indigenous Christians, particularly the Armenians, Assyrians, and Arabs.

Now, if you want to celebrate a Muslim people that took from Christians and wants to do the same again, that's fine, but it certainly shows an anti-Christian sentiment on your part. The Kurds want their own state but let's see if they are willing to make reparations to Christians that they tried to wipe out less than 100 years ago. I doubt it. ISIS is the devil but the Kurds are devil junior, the lesser of two evils.

Ironically for them, it's their old friends Turkey who keeps them down today. I do appreciate the poetic justice in that - no honor among thieves.

Hopefully Putin will be keeping an eye on these Kurds to make sure they behave.

 

[brinny]

Wow, that video is a stupid pile of propaganda. The reason the Kurds are largely hated in that part of the world is for the same reason the Turks are largely hated in that part of the world. Most of the lands they occupy were acquired through the butchering and genocide of indigenous Christians, particularly the Armenians, Assyrians, and Arabs.

Now, if you want to support a Muslim people that took from Christians and wants to do the same again, that's fine, but it certainly shows an anti-Christian sentiment on your part. The Kurds want their own state but let's see if they are willing to make reparations to Christians that they tried to wipe out less than 100 years ago. I doubt it. ISIS is the devil but the Kurds are devil junior, the lesser of two evils.

Ironically for them, it's their old friends Turkey who keeps them down today. I do appreciate the poetic justice in that - no honor among thieves.

Hopefully Putin will be keeping an eye on these Kurds to make sure they behave.

if the video is "propaganda" as you say, what parts are lies?

How much of the history of the Kurds (going back to ancient history) are you aware of?

 

[interpreter]

They are not recognized to exist by any nation. Their flag exists - then again, so does New Jersey's and California's, and the confederate flag... None of them are nations though. Kurdistan doesn't exist. There are Kurdish states that exist but no nation and no "Kurdistan". They are amongst the most hated because they allied themselves with Turkey, believing that Turkey would reward them with a "Kurdistan" if they helped Turkey commit genocide against all the other ethnicities that Turkey wanted to wipe out.

In any case, it's interesting to see that you are a Muslim supporter since you were agreeing with Jahmlooshalom who is clearly anti-Muslim.

The Kurds are our chief ally in Iraq where Saddam Hussein dried up the Euphrates and began to agitate the US to bring about the Battle of Ar Mageddon (or the Mother of All Battles as he and many Muslims call it). The Revelation suggests that the war in Iraq ends when Baghdad/Iraq is split three ways, so that means the Kurds will be rewarded by the US (and/or God) with their own homeland. And all of the Christians in Iraq have fled to Kurdistan so Kurdistan is also a Christian safe haven. Much of the Bible is about the Euphrates and the Garden of Eden (now Iraq) where the first civilization appeared (and the first writing, first farming, etc., in short the first civilized man).

 

[FanthatSpark]

Phobia's base reality ... http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/07/playing-right-into-isiss-hands/

An excerpt ...

“The policemen asked for my papers,” al-De’emeh tells me. “I gave them no problem. Then they asked how many languages I spoke. I said Dutch, French, English and Arabic. And one of them said: “Here in Belgium, we don’t like you to speak Arabic”. They were not nice. They asked what was in my car and they checked everything and came across copies of my book, The Jihad Caravan. A policeman said: “Here in Belgium we don’t allow you to have this book in your car – we don’t have ‘jihad’ in Belgium”. They told me to get out of my car, put my hands on the roof. They asked for the password of my phone which I didn’t give them. Then they opened my phone, took my SIM card, wrote down some numbers and gave it back. They went through all my papers and threw them in the car, some of them falling on the road.”

Al-De’emeh was outraged and complained to the police. “I had just been giving a speech about radicalisation to Parliament. I run a centre to help people get rid of this Isis thing. For two years, I’ve been doing this. I try to de-radicalise these people. But Isis want things like this to happen. They want the police to threaten Muslims and if the police behave like this, they are hindering our work and helping Isis.”

The local police tried to explain away this little mishap. “People” had been filming police and army posts from al-De’emeh’s car – presumably the film crew following his work – and al-De’emeh had “incited bystanders against the police”, which is an offence under Belgian law.

Much worse was to come. Al-De’emeh began receiving messages from Isis itself.

“They were laughing at me,” he says. “They wrote that now I would see what happened when people opposed Isis. One wrote: ‘What’s up? Having problems, are you?’ Isis was very pleased this had happened to me. They want things like this to happen to Muslims. They want the police to fight Muslims. They want a war between European Muslims and the people.”

The ironies of all this are all too obvious. The Belgian cops should have been reading al-De’emeh’s book, not condemning him for having copies of it in his car. They should have been learning from him, not abusing him. But once you tell people that they are living in fear; once you have a “state of emergency”, all the normal rules of society are chucked out.

 

[ecco]

I think you think I come here with emotion . What one says here is "what" to me?
This forum is not the be all, friend. (emphasis ecco). It has been addressed in opinion alone which has no article and correctness to it and never claimed to be. This forum on the American side of the ocean is for personal gratification or afrontages where religion is...Added. Profit is the reason over that sea far away from our recliner thrones and computers. We add the religion...Period. How one views this... April 6, 2009. just in time for Easter, President Obama spoke at a press conference in Turkey, a Muslim country, and said of America, "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation."

...is for you to find it on TV. I got tired of looking for it to no avail, thus the comment of not on TV.

"emphasis ecco"?

I haven't the slightest idea of what you are trying to communicate in your rambling post.

 

[FanthatSpark]

As for Baerakdar’s claim that, “We did not take up arms to spill blood. We took up arms to spare blood.” That is transparently false. In fact, most of the fighters active in Syria today, are foreigners that are funded, armed, and trained by Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the US. Their job is to tear the country to shreds in order to topple Assad, replace him with a compliant stooge, and divide the state in a way that best serves the commercial and strategic interests of the three main perpetrators.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/11/the-saudi-hosted-opposition-talks-fiasco/

When one fact gathers it helps to negate a phobia.

 

[FanthatSpark]

just a reminder...

whats in our heads? Provided by who?

 

[FanthatSpark]

Todays article. http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/15/liberal-extremism-disguised-as-defense-of-muslims/

 

[TLK Valentine]

Better article: http://www.siasat.com/news/chicagos...ab-promote-acceptance-islamic-beliefs-885494/