Islam doesn't condone terror

[Rebax]

No kidding, what else do you have but arguing Exodus? An instruction of God to a defined, limited people on a local ground, limited scale, how do you theologically apply that to this modern day? HOW? Show me how that applies today? The difference is, it is not global Jihad, it is not a command to fight until Islam remains, it is not a command that only religion before Allah is Islam.

Hardly.


Weasels... What a joke. It doesn't have to specify "innocent children" Your challenge is to show how Islam is peaceful in that respect.
Thanks, but not the one Islam promises, hopefully...

You don't seem to get it what Jihad means, yet again you abuse it without knowing the meaning of it and what the Quran says about Jihad, put up evidence and I will reply.

 

[plenary]

And would you please put up the Laws of God that Jesus (Pbuh) Taught?

What? You don't know the highest laws of Christianity?

Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.
31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

These are the highest laws of God and are not related to kind of religion, race or whatever...

All valid prophets validate these statements as the highest laws...

Christianity still has prophets and thereby a vast number of prophetic texts (besides the Bible)... There is no reason, why there shouldn't be any more prophets. Both in theory and practice....

 

[Rebax]

What? You don't know the highest laws of Christianity?



These are the highest laws of God and are not related to kind of religion, race or whatever...

All valid prophets validate these statements as the highest laws...

Christianity still has prophets and thereby a vast number of prophetic texts (besides the Bible)... There is no reason, why there shouldn't be any more prophets. Both in theory and practice....

People have different views on them, it's why I asked for you to define. And of course I will put up evindence on sucha things are in the Quran aswell, a thing you miss though is Jesus (Pbuh) came to the jews and not to the whole mankind. We muslims believe Muhammed (Pbuh) was the final message and a lot of the things like Zakat (Giving to the poor) And fasting also which is a month when we don't eat anything and give out to the poor during that month and cleaning our heart from the worldy desires.

 

[plenary]

People have different views on them, it's why I asked for you to define.

Christ Himself told us these are the highest laws...

And there are prophetic texts from the 1700's (and earlier) as well as the 1800's, 1900's as well as the 2000's...
(some of which are extremely profound)
God is not a distant God, but wants to be close to His creation....

And God asks us to live for Him, not to die for Him... The latter is just the result of evil forces... (and yes, many have died for the love they had for God and fellow man...) And a man who dies out of hatred for his fellow man, is no martyr, but a devil...

Because if one hates his fellow man, how can he love God, whom he has not seen??

Rebax, if you want to know the Truth about Christ, you have to search.... Because if you don't search, you will not find... All who found God have had to search...

 

[JJWhite]

"Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents honor/do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbor, the neighbor farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess. Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful." (4:36)

 

[FRM48]

You don't seem to get it what Jihad means, yet again you abuse it without knowing the meaning of it and what the Quran says about Jihad, put up evidence and I will reply.

Don't even go there,the whole Jihad means struggle argument is seriously lacking.Struggle against what?Temptation on a personal level?What about in the context of the world?The domination of all others,Seriously the deceptive word play used to defend radical Islam may fool the rest of the world,but it won't fool Christians.The ultimate goal of Islam is a World Caliphate,to that I say NO THANK YOU.

 

[Rebax]

You asked me to put up evidence from Quran that decscribe the laws of God and I'm working on it. You replied too fast but here I go.

Islam comes from the word ''Salema'' which means submission to God (Allah) and when a person do this it's with all Heart/Mind/Soul/Strength, and this is where Jihad comes in when we fight with our desires.

And Hadith about Love for God, giving charity and so on can be found here.


On the authority of Abu Harayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (Peace be upon him), who said: Allah (mighty and sublime be He) said:
Spend (on charity), O son of Adam, and I shall spend on you.

On the authority of Abu Mas'ud al-Ansari (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (may the blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said:
A man from among those who were before you was called to account. Nothing in the way of good was found for him except that he used to have dealings with people and, being well-to-do, he would order his servants to let off the man in straitened circumstances [from repaying his debt]. He (the Prophet p.b.u.h) said that Allah said: We are worthier than you of that (of being so generous). Let him off.
It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari and an-Nasa'i).

The mercy & love of Allah to his servants

On the authority of Anas (may Allah be pleased with him), who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) say: Allah the Almighty said:
O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great at it.

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Ibn Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Gabriel impressed upon me (the kind treatment) towards the neighbour (so much) that I thought as if he would soon confer upon him the (right) of inheritance.


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Abu Dharr reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Abu Dharr, when you prepare the broth, add water to that and give that (as a present) to your neighbour.


Sorry, I haven't more time today since I'm kinda busy at the moment, if you have more questions I will be able to answer them laters, Inshallah.

Peace.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

You don't seem to get it what Jihad means, yet again you abuse it without knowing the meaning of it and what the Quran says about Jihad, put up evidence and I will reply.

I know very well what it means, I know the historical context it has been used. In my native country, people name their kids after it, don't sugar coat it just because your religion seems to have been hijacked....

 

[Rebax]

Don't even go there,the whole Jihad means struggle argument is seriously lacking.Struggle against what?Temptation on a personal level?What about in the context of the world?The domination of all others,Seriously the deceptive word play used to defend radical Islam may fool the rest of the world,but it won't fool Christians.The ultimate goal of Islam is a World Caliphate,to that I say NO THANK YOU.

the difference between my arguments and yours are that I have sources, evidence from my Holy book and I base my arguments according to them. You just come with statements that you have heard from people with lack of knowledge and spread it, if you have anything in the Quran that you would put here that support your idea then you're welcome. Jihad was explained in 3 different ways and you can read about it there in my previous posts if you are interested.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Let's be fair. Rebax has given lots of evidence to substantiate his point, but you're just giving opinions as if they're truths which can never be refuted.

Evidence to substantiate? Did you read any of the evidence that we haven't seen before? Do you wish to see another copy&paste contest which will not address issues? My opinions as a former cultural muslim does have a little bit of weight than that.

 

[Rebax]

I know very well what it means, I know the historical context it has been used. In my native country, people name their kids after it, don't sugar coat it just because your religion seems to have been hijacked....

All religions have tried to spread their religion, not to speak about the christian missions, trying to take over jerusalem with blood-shed. When the islamic golden age was going on during this period, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders in the Islamic world contributed to agriculture, the arts, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology, both by preserving earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own. Howard R. Turner writes: "Muslim artists and scientists, princes and laborers together made a unique culture that has directly and indirectly influenced societies on every continent. Individuals contributing to the Islamic Golden Age were not necessarily Muslim however, considering many parts of the then-tolerant Islamic world were inhabited by other religious groups, such as Christians, Jews and Mandeans.

Which denies all the arguments about muslims/jews/christians can't live in peace in a country. You can compare the west to the islamic regions during those years and not to speak about the christian countries and how they tried to kill everyone who denied that the earth was centre in the unversium.

Peace.

 

[FRM48]

the difference between my arguments and yours are that I have sources, evidence from my Holy book and I base my arguments according to them. You just come with statements that you have heard from people with lack of knowledge and spread it, if you have anything in the Quran that you would put here that support your idea then you're welcome. Jihad was explained in 3 different ways and you can read about it there in my previous posts if you are interested.

One word, Abrogation.You'll use early verses which were abrogated by latter verses,please.We've been down this road before.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

the difference between my arguments and yours are that I have sources, evidence from my Holy book and I base my arguments according to them. You just come with statements that you have heard from people with lack of knowledge and spread it, if you have anything in the Quran that you would put here that support your idea then you're welcome. Jihad was explained in 3 different ways and you can read about it there in my previous posts if you are interested.

Quote mining is not evidence, where is the substance? You quote the evidence but you don't explain the actions, this is a typical muslim behavior in regards to dealing with current issues. Please explain your attitude why you believe that "we" base our argument to what we "heard" and you didn't? I know how jihad is broken down, none of this mattered in the pre-9/11 world. Again , hiding behind the vagueness of definitions we are to explain it away...

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

All religions have tried to spread their religion, not to speak about the christian missions, trying to take over jerusalem with blood-shed.

Not sure what period you are talking about other than imposing your notions you base on your understanding of historical accounts. Did Christians form a divine ordered force to take it from the Jews? Did the Latin world form a force to protect what they believed the Holy Land from the invasions of islamic military force? Which period?

When the islamic golden age was going on during this period, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders in the Islamic world contributed to agriculture, the arts, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology, both by preserving earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own.

This is not a counter argument to protect Islam and resolve the violence it posed to the globe over the centuries, every culture in itself had a golden period, even pre-islamic cultures, what of them? Greeks, Chinese, Indians, what is your contribution NOW?

Howard R. Turner writes: "Muslim artists and scientists, princes and laborers together made a unique culture that has directly and indirectly influenced societies on every continent. Individuals contributing to the Islamic Golden Age were not necessarily Muslim however, considering many parts of the then-tolerant Islamic world were inhabited by other religious groups, such as Christians, Jews and Mandeans.

Well, your very own comment about the socio-political mindset of islamic states....

Which denies all the arguments about muslims/jews/christians can't live in peace in a country. You can compare the west to the islamic regions during those years and not to speak about the christian countries and how they tried to kill everyone who denied that the earth was centre in the unversium.

Tu quoque argument doesn't explain away what Greeks and other Europeans think of muslims TODAY! That peace you talk about was clearly imposed. You do not know the problems of minorities under the islamic rule. Even today.

 

[Rebax]

Not sure what period you are talking about other than imposing your notions you base on your understanding of historical accounts. Did Christians form a divine ordered force to take it from the Jews? Did the Latin world form a force to protect what they believed the Holy Land from the invasions of islamic military force? Which period?



This is not a counter argument to protect Islam and resolve the violence it posed to the globe over the centuries, every culture in itself had a golden period, even pre-islamic cultures, what of them? Greeks, Chinese, Indians, what is your contribution NOW?

Well, your very own comment about the socio-political mindset of islamic states....

Tu quoque argument doesn't explain away what Greeks and other Europeans think of muslims TODAY! That peace you talk about was clearly imposed. You do not know the problems of minorities under the islamic rule. Even today.

Oh enligten me of the problems that minorities had under Islamic rules. (Which source) your words dosen't convince me since it's a bunch of empty speaking. Knowing the fact that you were ex-muslim is hard to believe for every reply you make. Maybe you was one of the fake ex-muslims that was expossed, hmm.

 

[RemoveBeforeFlight]

All religions have tried to spread their religion, not to speak about the christian missions, trying to take over jerusalem with blood-shed.

Actually, it's always important to get the point in these kind of arguments: On what basis did all these happen ? Well, all the muslims did was a direct order of their koran and therefore they believe that it's a heavenly mission to kill non-muslims.
When we talk about Christianity, it's never EVER mentioned in any parts of the Bible or any other scriptures, as Christian world did apologize for the Crusades because it simply didnt fit the doctrines of Christianity whereas the same thing is an order of their god in Islam.

When the islamic golden age was going on during this period, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders in the Islamic world contributed to agriculture, the arts, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology, both by preserving earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own. Howard R. Turner writes: "Muslim artists and scientists, princes and laborers together made a unique culture that has directly and indirectly influenced societies on every continent. Individuals contributing to the Islamic Golden Age were not necessarily Muslim however, considering many parts of the then-tolerant Islamic world were inhabited by other religious groups, such as Christians, Jews and Mandeans.

I don't know how many artists-philosophers etc of the golden-muslim age you know, but I know quite a lot of them did start to act AGAINST their religion as they got more into arts and philosophy and other stuff, I can give you one example, Omar Hayyam, he was a Turkish guy but if there's an English translation of his works, you can get the point very well.

Peace.

 

[Rebax]

''When we talk about Christianity, it's never EVER mentioned in any parts of the Bible or any other scriptures, as Christian world did apologize for the Crusades because it simply didnt fit the doctrines of Christianity whereas the same thing is an order of their god in Islam. ''

Never mentioned in the bible? Oh...really.

Deuteronomy
Chapter 2


32-37
And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land before thee: begin to possess, that thou mayest inherit his land. 32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz. 33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. 36 From Aroer, which is by the brink of the river of Arnon, and from the city that is by the river, even unto Gilead, there was not one city too strong for us: the LORD our God delivered all unto us


Deuteronomy
Chapter 25


1-3

1 If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked. 2 And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to his fault, by a certain number. 3 Forty stripes he may give him, and not exceed: lest, if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes, then thy brother should seem vile unto thee

Now I can understand that punishments like this can be carried on, the reason I post this is because CHRISTIANS do not accept things like this. When they read in the Quran that it says lash the ones who commit illegal sexual intercourse, the Christians start ranting how can you do such a thing! Thats so evil!!!!!! So I am just using their own argument against them, so as we see, the punishment of beating a sinner is in their own book. Hence based on their own arguments and own criteria, their book and God is not peaceful and is evil, and who is this God? It is Jesus.

Deuteronomy
Chapter 28
15-68

15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20 The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. 21 The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it. 22 The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish. 23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron. 24 The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 25 The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 And thy carcass shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away. 27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. 28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: 29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee. 30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof. 31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them. 32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand. 33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labors, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway: 34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 35 The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head. 36 The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. 37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee. 38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it. 39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit. 41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. 42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. 43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. 44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: 46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever. 47 Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things; 48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee. 49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; 50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young: 51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. 52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: 54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: 55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, 57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates. 58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; 59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. 63 And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. 64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. 65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind: 66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life: 67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

Now the reason I post this is because Christians namely Craig Winn claim Islam is not peaceful because Allah Warns of punishing people who dont follow him etc. Now since Christians believe that, then using their own criteria and own arguments then the verses I just posted show that it is infact their God who is violent and non peaceful because as you can see he will punish those who dont follow them in a very harsh manner. So Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house, and they do live in a glass house. I wonder what Craig Winn will have to see about these verses, I mean he does believe in this God who is warning of these punishments, if Christians have a problem with Allah punishing people then why dont they have a problem with their own God when he says he will punish people? So hence Christians must now admit their God is violent and not peaceful since they say Allah cant be God because of his wrath and punishments, if Christians do not admit it then they can no longer argue against Islam, if they continue to use this silly argument on Islam then they must leave their own religion. So they are in a bad dilema now, attack Islam and leave Christianity or dont attack Islam and therefore have nuthing much to attack Islam on.



Exodus 21:7-11

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.

This is a sex slave. If she doesnt please the master? How is she supposed to please him? Now you know why the sex trade is so popular in Europe and Christian countries, because their book allows it! They are merely doing what their book allows.

Ezekiel 21
3 and say to her: 'This is what the LORD says: I am against you. I will draw my sword from its scabbard and cut off from you both the righteous and the wicked.
4 Because I am going to cut off the righteous and the wicked, my sword will be unsheathed against everyone from south to north.
5 Then all people will know that I the LORD have drawn my sword from its scabbard; it will not return again.'


Peace.

 

[Rebax]

They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)"

Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

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1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

Psalm 137:8-9
8 O daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
9 O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock!

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Oh enligten me of the problems that minorities had under Islamic rules. (Which source) your words dosen't convince me since it's a bunch of empty speaking. Knowing the fact that you were ex-muslim is hard to believe for every reply you make. Maybe you was one of the fake ex-muslims that was expossed, hmm.

When was the last time you have spoken to a Greek or Serbian national? Or Armenian, or Romanian, or Bulgarian? My words don't convince you since "it is a bunch of empty speaking" Really? See, as an ex-muslim I am aware of the social and cultural problems islamic communities suffered over the centuries, and you are aware of these, too, however the necessary critical point of view will not be given to us by yourself. I am not the only former muslim that has criticized Islam over the years, so what source should satisfy you? Because at this point, you are not going to approach the issues via a logical route which should consider personal experiences, but demand pages of written material from individuals that you would likely to choose. How many times have you exposed a "fake" muslim? Isn't that a paranoia?

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

'So hence Christians must now admit their God is violent,

Peace.

Tu quoque, or the appeal to hypocrisy, is a kind of logical fallacy. It is a Latin term for "you, too" or "you, also". A tu quoque argument attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting his failure to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. This dismisses someone's viewpoint on an issue on the argument that the person is inconsistent in that very thing. It is considered an ad hominem argument, since it focuses on the party itself, rather than its positions.

Source:Wiki

Where is the peace?