When it comes to prophecies everyone agrees they are messianic prophecies but what about Isaiah 8??
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Isaiah 7 & 9
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While the wife of Isaiah wasn't the virgin being discussed in the previous chapter the meaning of the name of Isaiah's son is also a description of how Yeshua will come to quickly spoil the Enemy of his riches and power, and combine this with Emmanuel and Yeshua and you have:
God [is] with us [and He will] quickly spoil [the Enemy and be our] Savior
It's kind of like that other prophecy from Matthew where he says the prophets prophesied that Jesus would be called a Nazarene, you don't find those words in the MT or LXX...but...if you consider Samson who was a type of Christ then the picture is clear: for Samson was made to be a Nazarene or one "set apart". Seeing that Samson was a judge of Israel, was betrayed by his both his father-in-law of his first wife and later his second wife, and killed the Philistines with him by pushing the two Pillars on either side of him: we have in this story an allegory of Christ who from His birth was set apart God to come to deal with our enemies, be a judge, was betrayed by His own people, and in his death overcame the Enemy with the power God gave Him: and it is through His death that we have life.
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