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Apple Sky

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Hello. I'm new.

I personally believe that Issaiah 53 points to Jesus. But Jewish person says that it is pointing to the nation of Israel as a whole.

What do you say to that? Thanks.

I find it amazing that Isaiah was writing about Jesus in the future.............:openbook:

Makes one wonder how Isaiah knew ???
 
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Hello. I'm new.

I personally believe that Issaiah 53 points to Jesus. But Jewish person says that it is pointing to the nation of Israel as a whole.

What do you say to that? Thanks.
I say the Jews are coming up with a poor interpretation in order to keep denying Jesus is the Messiah.
 
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Hello. I'm new.

I personally believe that Issaiah 53 points to Jesus. But Jewish person says that it is pointing to the nation of Israel as a whole.

What do you say to that? Thanks.
Welcome to the Forum! There are so many details in Isaiah 53 that can only apply to Jesus Christ. These things couldn't be said of the Jewish nation:

“4 ¶ Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. 5 But He [was] wounded for our transgressions, [He was] bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace [was] upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth.” (Isa 53:4-7 NKJV)

That cannot apply to a nation, or even to an individual Jew, apart from Jesus.
 
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Hello. I'm new.

I personally believe that Issaiah 53 points to Jesus. But Jewish person says that it is pointing to the nation of Israel as a whole.

What do you say to that? Thanks.
Everything in the entirety of the Bible points to Jesus
 
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Hello. I'm new.

I personally believe that Issaiah 53 points to Jesus. But Jewish person says that it is pointing to the nation of Israel as a whole.

What do you say to that? Thanks.
Well it is obvious that Isaiah 53 is NOT speaking of the nation of Israel because Israel is always referred to as " she" not He. She is the " daughter of Zion". You can find her as the daughter of Zion or even the harlot in Isaiah but never mentioned in the masculine. One just needs to read Isaiah in its entirety to see the obvious.
Be aware that you are interacting with a non beliver so the lens is clouded.
Be blessed.
 
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Mark Quayle

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