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Is YEC science? Is is even really a theory?

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Nice try, Astro.



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QV post 480.
Do you understand what the c in c. 1482–79 bce means?
It means circa or about, in fact the commonly accepted reign for Thutmose II is 1493- 79 bce.
If it wasn't Thutmose II then it must have been his father Thutmose I .
Yet Thutmose I has never been considered the pharaoh of the Exodus by historians both ancient, past and contemporary and archaeologists.

 
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Do you understand what the c in c. 1482–79 bce means?
Yes.

It means that Thutmose II took over, NINE YEARS AFTER his predecessor was drowned in the Red Sea, trying to catch the Israelites, who were fleeing across on foot.
 
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Yes.

It means that Thutmose II took over, NINE YEARS AFTER his predecessor was drowned in the Red Sea, trying to catch the Israelites, who were fleeing across on foot.
What a complete load of utter rubbish.
So now you are trying to rewrite Egyptian history equivalent to your nonsensical distortions of the Bible.
Which is it, was Egypt without a pharaoh for nine years or was there an unknown pharaoh between Thutmose I and II?

Archaeology refutes your nonsense the king lists show Thutmose II succeeded Thutmose I and the succession was immediate not nine years in the making.
What makes your nonsense even more of a problem Thutmose's II reign could have occurred earlier.
This would make Thutmose's II successor the pharaoh of the Exodus, one of Egypt's greatest pharaohs and a woman Hatshepsut.

 
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Post 483, Kylie.
And how do you know Ussher got it right? Even if he counted everything correctly, it still depends on the dates and numbers in the Bible being accurate. In other words, you are once again saying reality can take a hike.

In short, you have no actual real world evidence, and as a result of that, don't expect me to believe for a second that your claims reflect reality in any way.
 
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Perhaps but it sure is interesting that History (recorded) begins 6000 years ago in the Middle East just like The Bible and YEC claim.
 
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Perhaps but it sure is interesting that History (recorded) begins 6000 years ago in the Middle East just like The Bible and YEC claim.
Except the YEC is not that. the YEC claim is that the surface of the world was annihilated typically about 4 and a half thousand years ago.

It also ignores that much older non written examples of human culture are found all over the world.
 
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In short, you have no actual real world evidence, and as a result of that, don't expect me to believe for a second that your claims reflect reality in any way.
Would you know it, if they did?
 
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What do you know that Public Hermit doesn't then?

I've think you've simply misunderstood Public Hermit, for one, brother AV. He was just stating a fact rather than giving you a recommendation.

But, what do I know that Public Hermit doesn't? .... Brother, let me tell you.......................you don't want to know.
 
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Except the YEC is not that. the YEC claim is that the surface of the world was annihilated typically about 4 and a half thousand years ago.

It also ignores that much older non written examples of human culture are found all over the world.
Yes but YEC also says the earth was created about 6000 years in the Middle East. History (recorded) begins about 6000 years ago in the Middle East.
 
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Perhaps but it sure is interesting that History (recorded) begins 6000 years ago in the Middle East just like The Bible and YEC claim.

Really, it isn't that interesting. Perhaps just a coincidence.

And "The Bible" doesn't actually claim the 6000-year claim. It has some references (particularly in the latter historical books) to kings and nations that can be easily found in history, this is not true of the earliest parts. Even if we granted a historical core to the narratives in Exodus and Joshua (and they are quite questionable), Genesis lacks such a core. It is full of "just-so stories" and patriarchs with sons who all found cities or nations.

To connect from the dubious history of the exodus and the "conquest" of Joshua to the start requires daisy-chaining through a list of dubious ages. "6000 years" is just the work of that quack Ussher. There is not "in the year 1457 since Adam, ...".
 
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Yes but YEC also says the earth was created about 6000 years in the Middle East. History (recorded) begins about 6000 years ago in the Middle East.
That doesn't present evidence for YEC at all.

Evidence for recorded history can be dated to the middle east around 6000 years ago.

YEC time lines have recorded history being impossible before a little over 4000 years ago... due to the combination of the Flood and the Tower of Babel.

Even if you ignore all the evidence in geology and anthropology and only use records as evidence... then YEC is contradicted by evidence.
 
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You don't know when he reigned, do you?
You are not doing yourself any favours with this deceptive act of cherry picking my post as a diversion.
Since you want rewrite Egyptian history don't leave your fairy tale incomplete and answer my question;
"Which is it, was Egypt without a pharaoh for nine years or was there an unknown pharaoh between Thutmose I and II?"
 
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"Which is it, was Egypt without a pharaoh for nine years or was there an unknown pharaoh between Thutmose I and II?"
How should I know? I'm not into Egyptology.

I'll take a guess and say it was Thutmose I.
 
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Since you use that answer unchanged, I can use a previous reply unchanged too, except for one detail.

You have now used that answer at least three four times. I am going to assume that you consider this a rock solid example, an argument devoid of any weakness, armoured against any inquiry.
So I am going to ask you to explain in detail why you think this is a valid answer. Step by step. If possibly, please differentiate assumption from empirical evidence from reasoning from conclusion. This will improve the clarity.
Don't be shy to assume me an Immensely Idiotic Ignoramus, to which everything needs to be explained. I prefer boredom over brevity and redundancy over lack of clarity. I want to know what you hope to demonstrate with that answer for I fail to understand it.


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