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Is touching yourself a sin? (2)

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Gukkor

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how is it possable to touch without sinning? if you know the answer to that, please share and you will solve about 95percent of ministers problems.

Don't lust, of course. How one goes about that would depend upon how one answers the questions in my last post.
 
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yes but how can one possably touch without lusting? obviously you have to be thinking about someone naked, or doing something sexual to another person, so i dont see how you can touch without sinning.

Hey Jeff

Lusting is not that easy to do. It is not something that just poof happens. You open your eyes and get ho..y, that is not lust. Lust is a very strong word and to get to lust is no easy step or two. Just in my opinion, what you are calling lust is something else. It is quite possible to touch without lust and I would guess most people do not actually lust when they touch.....more like an image......an image will do it and doesn't have to be a lustful image. Sometimes we blow words out of proportion.
 
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Since masturbation is not mentioned in the Bible, but is controversial, wouldn't it be much safer just not to touch. The Bible doesn't mention everything otherwise it would be to big for earth to contain. Perhaps, masturbation is a sin perhaps it isn't. Perhaps, smoking pot, also not in the Bible, is a sin perhaps it isn't. Either way both can easily lead people to sin and so should be avoided.
 
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Since masturbation is not mentioned in the Bible, but is controversial, wouldn't it be much safer just not to touch. The Bible doesn't mention everything otherwise it would be to big for earth to contain. Perhaps, masturbation is a sin perhaps it isn't. Perhaps, smoking pot, also not in the Bible, is a sin perhaps it isn't. Either way both can easily lead people to sin and so should be avoided.

Easier said than done. And why not touch? Masturbation is not in the bible but those drugs are, obsession, and gluttony and manyy other things that pretty well cover everything but masturbating. It seems to me that God gave sex to every living being on the planet from birth to death and to try to limit it to sex of any kind only within a marriage is like trying to stuff a blanket into a thimble. What happened to reason and responsibility amongst adults? Why do we have to put a lock and key on every possible sin within creation? Where did all the good stuff go?
 
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yup it is a sin...not only a sin but will make you go blind...

Unless you burn a witch right?
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Easier said than done. And why not touch? Masturbation is not in the bible but those drugs are, obsession, and gluttony and manyy other things that pretty well cover everything but masturbating. It seems to me that God gave sex to every living being on the planet from birth to death and to try to limit it to sex of any kind only within a marriage is like trying to stuff a blanket into a thimble. What happened to reason and responsibility amongst adults? Why do we have to put a lock and key on every possible sin within creation? Where did all the good stuff go?

Masturbation is not sex. Sex involves a man and a woman. It is a diviation from sex. As far as reason and responsibility goes, we, as christians, have the bible as our guide, so we know that sex is only to be between a man and his wife.
 
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Masturbation is not sex. Sex involves a man and a woman. It is a diviation from sex. As far as reason and responsibility goes, we, as christians, have the bible as our guide, so we know that sex is only to be between a man and his wife.

Right, and as you've said, masturbation is not sex. What's the problem, then?
 
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As I see it. touching yourself is not a natural function.

touching yourself is something which is taught.

It is taught by folks who have also been taught, by folks whose have indulged in the sexual experience outside of the marriage bond. Thereby becoming obsessed with the desire to gratify such, no matter the cost.

The bible advises "it is better to marry than burn" So get married if you touch would be the scriptural injunction. Marry before you violate an innocent individual. Causing trauma and distress.

touching yourself is a sin, and 'marry' would be the biblical answer.

Scripture talks of some "neighing' like the stallion, after a neighbours wife. God forbid. Perish the thought, the great Apostle would say.

Such passion has to be controlled. Well this would be the biblical answer.
 
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As I see it. touching yourself is not a natural function.

touching yourself is something which is taught.

It is taught by folks who have also been taught, by folks whose have indulged in the sexual experience outside of the marriage bond. Thereby becoming obsessed with the desire to gratify such, no matter the cost.

The bible advises "it is better to marry than burn" So get married if you touch would be the scriptural injunction. Marry before you violate an innocent individual. Causing trauma and distress.

touching yourself is a sin, and 'marry' would be the biblical answer.

Scripture talks of some "neighing' like the stallion, after a neighbours wife. God forbid. Perish the thought, the great Apostle would say.

Such passion has to be controlled. Well this would be the biblical answer.

Hm. Who teaches babies to touch while they're still in the womb?
 
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Absolute tripe. Only God Himself can help such, with such thoughts.

And who might you be talking about, Gukkor or the other guy. Cuz you see, Gukkor makes more sense than the other guy. Oooooops, I see the other guy is you. Well, Gukkor makes more sense than you. It is drivel to marry so you don't touch. People don't marry for sex, or at least I hope they don't:wave:
 
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As a believer, we're supposed to be walking in and after the Spirit, not in or after the flesh. So, if masturbating is of the flesh, not in Spirit, and we're doing it... we're walking after it and not after the Spirit.

How's that glorifying God?
Amen Brother!

After I committed my heart to the Lord, my body had to follow. People hear me, when the incorruptible is placed first into His Spirit, those desires of the flesh flake off and no longer become a struggle. When we truly seek Him first, the fruits of the Spirit begin to first blossom, become fruit and are enjoyed not only by the Body of Christ, but are desired by those in the world!

May the wisdom of the Lord increase in your lives, through Jesus who is called the Christ! Amen!
 
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What I don't understand is that you guys follow the bible word for word, dot for dot. Nowhere in the bible is masturbaing mentioned....not once....nowhere. But you insist that masturbating is a sin. You can't have it both ways. Life doesn't work that way. Nobody gets it both ways. You follow the bible word for word, dot for dot and masturbation is not mentioned in the bible so you leave it alone. Or you don't follow the bible word for word, dot for dot. At some point, one must make up their mind.
 
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My mind and convictions on masturbation have been settled. Masturbation is a fleshly act and not one based on a Spiritual walk with the Lord, therefore I'm choosing to walk after the Spirit and not the flesh.

May God be praised!

-Genesis

Great. You have a right to your conviction. Just don't tell me some time down the road that I am wrong because I am not following the bible word for word.:wave:
 
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What I don't understand is that you guys follow the bible word for word, dot for dot. Nowhere in the bible is masturbaing mentioned....not once....nowhere. But you insist that masturbating is a sin. You can't have it both ways. Life doesn't work that way. Nobody gets it both ways. You follow the bible word for word, dot for dot and masturbation is not mentioned in the bible so you leave it alone. Or you don't follow the bible word for word, dot for dot. At some point, one must make up their mind.
Hi threeinone, if it convicts you then it has been revealed to you. I just want you to know that I will not judge you or others because there was a time when I did touch. If you have a personal relationship with Jesus, then I'll see you praising God in Heaven, around His Throne!

God Bless you!
 
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Hi threeinone, if it convicts you then it has been revealed to you. I just want you to know that I will not judge you or others because there was a time when I did touch. If you have a personal relationship with Jesus, then I'll see you praising God in Heaven, around His Throne!

God Bless you!

As far as I know, nothing convicts me, whatever that is. I wish I had never heard the word masturbating on this board. It is not in the bible and it should not be here under discussion. If you choose to not touch, it is simply a choice and I don't convict you. You have the same rights as I have. And I prefer to praise quietly, rather than loudly like the ones in the bible, beating their chests. We all have our calling.
 
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