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Is this transgender woman displaying toxic masculinity?

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Chesterton

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Hmm.. who knows? If the average woman was built like that.. maybe they'd tend to act the same too? Lol.
Maybe they'd act worse. In the animal kingdom the females are more dangerous than males, y'know.
 
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Maybe they'd act worse. In the animal kingdom the females are more dangerous than males, y'know.

I do not know if they would act worse, but I definitely am not in the camp that believes that if women ruled the world there would be no more wars... or any similar thinking mindset.

It's a psychological neotenic inspired urge to view women as innocent as we do with children (not like children are actually so innocent either.. but I have further commentary about that if the discussion picks up) But no.. they're just human like us men.. and that includes all the negative stuff that comes along with it. Women just historically had the luxury of not having to get their hands dirty.

I do believe there are things warranted as toxic masculinity/femininity... but bullying... is just generic toxicity. It's not something that society has to condition people to do.. perhaps men might always be more personally physically aggressive than women simply because we're built differently on average... but I don't view that as something that has to be conditioned. I've heard of studies that people with beefier cars tend to be more aggressive on the road.
 
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"As The Days Of Noah Were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be."
• Matthew 24:37


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"The LORD Sat Enthroned At The Flood, And the LORD sits as King forever."
• Psalm 29:10

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"As the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be."
• Matthew 24:37


FjgVWTwUYAAv_2_




"The LORD Sat Enthroned At The Flood, And the LORD sits as King forever."
• Psalm 29:10

god.throne.jpg


throne-of-judgment.jpg
Nice pictures…what do they have to do with the topic?
 
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Nice pictures…what do they have to do with the topic?

As The Days of Noah Were.


"Then the Lord saw that The Wickedness of Man Was Great In The Earth, and That Every Intent Of The Thoughts Of His Heart Was Only Evil Continually."

• GENESIS 6:5
 
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As The Days of Noah Were.


"Then the Lord saw that The Wickedness of Man Was Great In The Earth, and That Every Intent Of The Thoughts Of His Heart Was Only Evil Continually."

• GENESIS 6:5
Uh huh, that’s nice, is there a point besides “woe unto thee”?
 
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Saying that another person's experience of their own gender is illegitimate makes about as much sense as saying that another person's experience of God is illegitimate. What kind hubris must one have to deny another person's experience? The mentally insane may have delusions, but it would be absurd to say they're not experiencing the delusions they experience. Where is the humility anymore? You would think people of faith in an invisible God would be more cautious regarding the stones they choose to throw.
 
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It's amazing how the "non believers" on this forum are able to get away with insulting Christians in pseudo intellectual zinger snarky ways.
You’ll be surrounded by believers in heaven, until then you’re stuck here with us heathen.
 
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I do not know if they would act worse, but I definitely am not in the camp that believes that if women ruled the world there would be no more wars... or any similar thinking mindset.
I agree. My comment was more about like, if I was forced to choose between encountering a male or female grizzly bear in the woods, I'd choose to encounter the male.
It's a psychological neotenic inspired urge to view women as innocent as we do with children (not like children are actually so innocent either.. but I have further commentary about that if the discussion picks up) But no.. they're just human like us men.. and that includes all the negative stuff that comes along with it.
Agree.
Women just historically had the luxury of not having to get their hands dirty.
How dare you say that! They always wanted to get their hands dirty but The Patriarchy wouldn't let them! I'm so glad things have changed because now every time I call a plumber an attractive lady always shows up at my house.
I do believe there are things warranted as toxic masculinity/femininity... but bullying... is just generic toxicity.
I think I disagree with that. I think toxicity is just toxicity, unless one is using their masculinity or femininity to effect the toxicity. For example, I dated this Leftist girl who, when she was in law school received a bad grade she didn't feel she deserved, so she threatened the professor that she was going to report him (wrongfully) for sexually harassing her if he didn't change the grade. He changed the grade. And she told me this with pride! She actually thought it was a moral victory! Well it was a victory, but an immoral one, it was bullying, and she used her femininity to do it.
It's not something that society has to condition people to do.. perhaps men might always be more personally physically aggressive than women simply because we're built differently on average... but I don't view that as something that has to be conditioned. I've heard of studies that people with beefier cars tend to be more aggressive on the road.
Yeah it's not conditioning, it's common sense since ancient times I suppose. If an intruder is entering a cave family's cave, the one to fight him off would be the physically strongest which would in most cases be the cavehusband, not the cavewife. And when you need to fight a war you band together the humans who can throw the spear the farthest and swing the club the hardest.

But along with that, there's always been the idea that cowardice is a bad thing, a vice. It's viewed as wrong to not fight when you actually need to for a good reason. Men may want to be more physically aggressive to avoid seeming cowardly. When people say "conditioning" as best I can tell they just mean "teaching". Yes, we teach our children values, but the teachings are based on common sense. And when you hear people talk about social conditioning, what they're actually saying is "We don't like your values and we want to change them or just destroy them and replace them with nothing."
 
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Saying that another person's experience of their own gender is illegitimate makes about as much sense as saying that another person's experience of God is illegitimate. What kind hubris must one have to deny another person's experience? The mentally insane may have delusions, but it would be absurd to say they're not experiencing the delusions they experience. Where is the humility anymore? You would think people of faith in an invisible God would be more cautious regarding the stones they choose to throw.
This sounds like the usual appeal for Christians to keep quiet.
 
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You’ll be surrounded by believers in heaven, until then you’re stuck here with us heathen.
In the meantime it's our job to draw as many heathens to heaven as we can by trying to put some sense into them.
 
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It's a comment on the need for self-reflection and compassion.
In other words to be accommodating to lgbt and trans. To not be the group saying 'we're not going along with this'.
 
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In other words be accommodating to lgbt and trans. To not be the the group saying 'we're not going along with this'.

No, in the same words, it's a comment on the need to be self-reflective and compassionate. Do you want someone discounting your experience because they don't agree with it or think it's not actual? Of course, you don't. You would hope they would give you the benefit of the doubt that you know your own experience. The universal principle found in most religions, including our own, applies: treat others as you would want to be treated. Hence, it was a comment on the need for self-reflection and compassion.
 
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