If that is so, can you explain why Revelation 14:6 isn’t currently taking place? Isn’t the everlasting gospel being preached to every nation on earth now?
Can you give the chapter and verse to support this?
Can you give the chapter and verse to support this?
I don’t mind using some speculation to help understand the scriptures but your view seems to have layer upon layer of speculation, to the point that the interpretation has no support. You use statements such as “second coming”, “144,000”, and “the 12 disciples followed Jesus” but in order for me to make a serious examination of your view I need to know from the scriptures how they are associated with each other; not just a statement that they are associated.
For example you make the leap from the 12 disciples to 144,000 disciples with no other support. Is there any scripture that specifically calls the 144,000 disciples? Matthew 28:19 NIV Therefore go and make disciples of all nations. This happened in the first century; I could put forth the argument that all believers are disciples. Look at the definition of disciple <3101> a learner, i.e. pupil:-disciple.
I personally prefer an in depth conversation when it comes to examining someone else’s view. I can see the statements you’ve made but I can’t see how you are arriving at your conclusion that the 144,000 are going to be disciples.
Revelation 14:1-5
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
None of this defines a disciple of Christ?
"They follow the Lamb whithersoever He goeth."
This is not being a disciple?
Where are they sealed? On earth before death? In Heaven after death?
Revelation 7:1-4, after the 6th Seal and before the 7th Seal.
1 And after these things (the 6th Seal) I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Verse 3 points out the Trumpets are about to sound with great hurt. These 144k are going to be sealed preventing their bodies to get hurt. To me, that is receiving an incorruptible body, also one without a sin nature any more. Remember in chapter 14, they were redeemed from the earth, and: "In their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God." This was because they were sealed and redeemed. They were not redeemed and sealed because they were already perfect.
So they were sealed on the earth, and since they were following the Lamb after being sealed, the Lamb had to be on the earth. No verse ever claims they follow the Lamb around mount Zion. That is where they ended up because they followed the Lamb from the earth to Mt. Zion.
Why does no one see God on the throne and Jesus Christ as being on the earth after the spiritual blindness is removed from every human on earth at the 6th Seal? The 6th Seal is the exact words Jesus gave on the mount of Olives in the OD, of when He would come to earth the second time. The literal Second Coming. And the stars come to earth like fig leaves. That is John's symbolic reference to the angels. And they bring the Trumpet of God with them. The angels are about to blow it and 6 other Trumpets to bring judgment.
The everlasting gospel is given by the angel because it reminds humans they have no excuse to reject God. Yet they do and will do so, because they love themselves more than they love God. Only after the 6th Seal will all the details be known and man's theology come up lacking. Most deny the chronological order and even some events any way. Many will still deny the truth, even with God and the Lamb present on earth.