Is this justified?

[ACougar]

Today at 02:56 PM cenimo said this in Post #59

ACougar

May I refer you to Chesty Puller, Commandant of the Marine Corps WW II

"Grab them by the short hairs and their hearts and minds shall follow"

My question about this thread is that considering all the atroicties committed in the past by whomever, here we have a case where it happens to two people and it might have been by Americans* and the thread gets a lot of activity...

.... I had never heard of this particular source....but had it been WND no one would have taken it to be legit without other confirmatioin..... see what I mean....

now, let's take this example....
someone posting on these boards who naturally doesn't believe in violence, etc...as oppossed to an Israeli Army member who saw part of his family wiped out by a suicide bomber or a bomg planted on a bus...

funny thing, the guys who came over to 'Nam questioning the war were the ones who turned the most savage and bloodthirsty

let's look at it this way.... a few years back two Aussies were caught trying to smuggle dope through Malaysia... they were hung....sionce then, there haven't been too many stories of anyone trting to smuggle dope through Malaysia....

And when that Israeli Soldier helps bulldoze a block of Palestinian homes, all he has done is insure that a few more Palistineans are now willing to give thier lives in attempt to strike back.  I'm not saying I wouldn't hate Palestineans if I were an Israeli or that I wouldn't hate Israelis if I were a Palestinean.  I am saying that we shouldn't go around pulling people by thier "short hairs" until we have no other choice, and that we that we should abide by some standards of decency when we do.  Torture is indecent and immoral.

 

[ACougar]

Today at 03:21 PM datan said this in Post #60

well, I started the thread about Amercians being murdered by Colombian rebels, and you didn't bother to reply to it, either. And I think there are still Americans being held hostage by the rebels.

We should of course go in and get those Americans.  It's not that the situation you posted isn't tragic it simply isn't an issue that requires alot of debate or discussion.   

 

[Ryder]

Phffft, If we went in and busted them out everyone would still be up in arms, I could picture the slogans.... "why didn't you use diplomatic means, -you shot rebels to save americans, -murder for american interists, -stay out of columbia, blood for cocane" that is assuming America-Iraq weren't in the limelight already.

 

[datan]

seriously, I doubt so.

 

[Susan]

10th March 2003 at 07:50 AM fragmentsofdreams said this in Post #51 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=702697#post702697)

The biggest danger when fighting Satan is becoming Satan yourself.

Amen.

 

[Susan]

10th March 2003 at 08:17 AM fragmentsofdreams said this in Post #53 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=702741#post702741)

First, I was responding to cenimo, not Wolseley. My post clearly shows that I am quoting him.

Second, yes, a cop shooting a murderer while trying to arrest him is different than the original murder, but a cop beating a prisoner to death is murder. The prisoner no longer poses an immediate threat to anyone. Besides, some things are inherently evil and no end can justify them. Torture is one of these things.

Great post.

 

[jeffkrantz]

This is remarkable.

Ryder, are you suggesting that Jesus would do the same?

If not, how can we?

Peace,

Jeff