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Is this idea in any way biblical?

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I believe that the churches are seven...

Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle of the Circumcision, Peter
Smyrna - Gentile- Beginning with the Apostle of the Un-Circumcision, Paul
Pergamos - Orthodox... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
Thyatira - Catholic - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestant - A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Materialistic - Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?

All Christian churches, and all with their issues. I passed the eye of the needle into a wonderful world of spirituality when I was 18. I have studied and have found that the methods I received was almost identical to those methods taught in the old Cripple Creek camp meetings in Wythe County, VA, which started in the 1700's under the direction of Francis Asbury.

Those Methodist/Pentecostal revivals have basically went out of the spirit into the flesh and it was almost like the spiritual life I knew basically dissipated away. I was over hearing two woman talk in which one said to the other, "In the last days the people were going to have to 'Cut their own paths'."

In the early 1900's, when the Methodist revivals begin to grow cold, Pentecostal Holiness missionaries would basically start services in the form of home prayer services. The churches would form afterwords. So I would think that the home prayer meetings are a great start to better things.
 
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If you have been called to preach God's word He will make your place to preach just as apparent. Why not start looking for a church that is at that point in their growth where they are looking for a head pastor.

If God has called you, He will send you and place you......You do realize you may have to relocate eh?
 
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I don't know if it fits under God's law.
What were the early churches like? Certainly from reading the apostles letters, they were home churches which then grew until they needed a specific building to contain all the members.
 
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That's not a bad idea. Maybe where he shares head pastor duties w another or can volunteer.


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What were the early churches like? Certainly from reading the apostles letters, they were home churches which then grew until they needed a specific building to contain all the members.
This appears to be correct. However, it has almost nothing to do with the proposal presented to us in the OP.
 
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However, I want to know about biblically. I want to know if this is what the Lord was talking about when he told me to become a minister. If not? I'll continue to search for the answer.
I wonder why you placed this in *Christian History* If you know that the Lord has called you to minister the Word, be confident, and just go out and evangelize in your locality, and then establish a non-denominational house church. Once it grows beyond that capacity, rent a hall and continue. The New Testament is full of house churches. And do not think that if a solution is simple it is NOT from God. The essence of genius is simplicity and the Bible speaks of the *simplicity of Christ*.
 
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You have and bring very good points. There was no churches during old times. Christians would just gather together and study the bible together and pray together. All of the denominations didn't exist, and Christianity, was just Christianity.
The Church existed from Pentecost, and the Apostles set up local churches wherever they went. Yes, at first they met in homes, but they had ordained Presbyters, Deacons, and Bishops, and they didn't just study the Bible and Pray, they also had rites such as Baptism, Communion, Annointing the Sick, Ordination, etc.

I'm not sure who ordained you, but if in fact you are being called to ministry, it is essential that you go to school and study, so that you are fit to lead. A pastor needs more than just the typical layman's understanding in scripture, because people will come to you with unusual questions, and you will need to know the answers. Education will also train you in such things as Christian counseling. Ideally, this training comes before ordination.

You mentioned two non-denom churches. Why are you ruling out denominational churches? The only difference is a non-denominational church is independent, self sufficient. It has no larger governing body to report to (or to hold it accountable should it go astray).

I think it is admirable that you are attending Mass rather than attend no church at all, which must be difficult since obviously you are not Catholic (and therefore cannot receive communion).
 
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I don't have any biblical training. I thought training and experience would come from God guiding my life and from reading God's word and studying God's word for the rest of my life. And from the training and guidance of fellow Christians.
This is naive. There is no substitute for good, in depth training. Please consider enrolling at a seminary if you are serious about ministry.
 
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So, why do I even think that Church is necessary in the first place?

Maybe there are more Catholic parts to my soul left than I thought.
Nothing wrong with being Catholic. In fact, personally I hope you reach the point where you return to the Catholic church. But that's just me. As to whether you should attend church, THAT is BIBLICAL:
"Not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another--and all the more as you see the Day approaching." Hebrews 10:25
 
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Hey, to be perfectly honest with you I didn't read any of the comments here so idk if anyone already said this, but it's all I could hear when I was reading your words. "Where two or more are gathered in one place, He is there." 18:20 I don't think you are not a Christian or stupid or any of that nonsense. I think you are doing exactly what you should be. You are seeking God and trying to understand what he is telling you. Know what I think? I think he meant for you to minister to you and your family. There isn't a church in your area, so set up Sunday service at home with your wife. Do communion. Invite a few friends for a bible study. Start small. If God wants you to start a church it will just happen. More and more people will come and the demand will get stronger and you will see the need more and more. Eventually it will be screaming in your face, but that might not be the path for you. Either way. I know I'm not the one repeating that verse. It fits too perfectly to your situation. Just remember. Where 2 or more people gather in God's name he will be there. Go ahead and start with your wife as your congregation. Bless you friend. Remember also, if you can't hear His answer, be still and know that he is God. He is in control and will lead you, have faith.
 
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I too have been having trouble finding a church. The area I live in is 50% Catholic, most of the rest are lukewarm.
 
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Oooohhh don't ever let yourself fall into that trap! God does not ever get tired of hearing from us. He rejoices when we call out on him. For anything. Even the redundant repetitive stuff. He very well may have guided you to ask cf to help with your own doubts but he did not tell you to go find an answer some place else. That is not the nature of our God. Our prayers are a pleasant aroma to him.
 
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I'm confused. If God has "told you" to be a minister and "told you" to get advice here, but won't tell you more clearly what to do, then what is God up to? This is a very odd and unbiblical way for God to provide guidance. Certainly God knows you'll get multiple opinions here and still be left with sorting out which ones might be his leading?
 
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For most of us in ministry, a sense of vocation develops over time.

When I first recognised a call to ministry, I thought God was calling me to be a prison chaplain. I now recognise that actually, I am probably better in parish ministry than I ever would be as a prison chaplain; but more to the point, I also understand why that is, because I've had experience of a range of ministry contexts and also learned more about my own gifts.

Most of us are pointing out to the OP that this is probably the start of a much bigger process which he will undergo over time, and that he needs further training and experience. As he gets those things, he will understand more about what God is calling him to. In the meantime, it will hardly hurt him to learn some more!
 
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I was a pastor for many years, so I definitely get the growing sense of vocation and the refinement that happens as one learns about one's own self and the needs of the community. Perhaps that is why the OP stuns me a bit, as typically those claiming a direct line to God with no clear focus have turned out to have other motivations, in most cases that they were not even aware of, suggesting they needed more experience and training than a rubber stamp to do some kind of "new" ministry. The "I will obey no matter what" attitude is especially troubling. I've worked with people who thought God was calling them to all kinds of odd sacrifices, when in reality there were other issues at work. I'm being vague because I don't mean to suggest that the OP author is exactly like these people I've known, but the language used is strikingly similar. I've seen people use "God told me to go into ministry" as a way to escape other realities they needed to face.
 
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How did you get Ordained? I am wondering what your Christian background is, and what version of the Bible do you use? Thanks for answering my questions.
 
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And about 2 weeks ago while I was praying the Lord told me to become a minister so, I got ordained and started to work on my own Church group and doing research on becoming a minister.

Wow. Less than 2 weeks to get ordained. That's fast. I would have expected years of preparation and study.


You certainly aren't the first person to think about starting a new congregation because you didn't like what's available in your community. New congregations start up all the time usually because the person doesn't agree or thinks they can do better than the dozens of congregations in the area. There's a lot more to being a pastor than just knowing scripture. You could start by leading a weekly bible study group.
 
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