Is this God?

leefromcanada · Mar 30, 2020

Is this God?: The Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit?

Three different Persons but one God?

createdtoworship · Mar 30, 2020

leefromcanada said:
Is this God?: The Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit?

Three different Persons but one God?

yes God is manifest in three persons, God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit they are three distinct persons but one God. I look at it like this, it's not a 1+1+1=3 formula, it's a 1X1X1=1 formula. See each person of the Godhead magnifies each other, the Spirit the son...John 15:26, and the Son Glorifies the Father John 8:54.
What it is not: three offices of one God, what it is not....3 Gods.

another illustration is the triple aspect of water, it can appear as ICE, vapor or liquid but it's still water. Same to with the Trinity, God can manifest as the Holy Spirit, the Son, or The father. They are still on God. But this is not a perfect illustration because it supports the 3 offices of God. But I just use it to prove that compound unity does exist mathematically and in science both.

Ricky M · Mar 30, 2020

It's like water. It can be a solid (ice), a liquid (fluid), and a gas (steam/vapor). But it's all still water.

Jeshu · Mar 31, 2020

When we love God and neighbour He lives in our hearts as Father & Son in Holy Spirit. God is the truth of love alive in your chest. We serve not three gods but only One God.

Citizen of the Kingdom · Mar 31, 2020

I think of Jesus as the fleshly part that is seen in the world, the Father as the soul that the Son confers with to intellectually understand the world, and the Spirit as the guiding principal that holds it all together. We are three part beings as is the trinity of the Godhead.

solid_core · Mar 31, 2020

Ricky M said:
It's like water. It can be a solid (ice), a liquid (fluid), and a gas (steam/vapor). But it's all still water.

Practically nothing in your analogy corresponds to Trinity.

The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are not just changing forms of some underlying entity. Its actually a heresy called oneness (it says that God is just one person manifesting in various forms - modalism).

The generally accepted teaching about Trinity is that they are without change and they are different persons in perfect unity.

St_Worm2 · Mar 31, 2020

What the Trinity is, what it isn't, and why analogies for the Trinity/Godhead never really work. Enjoy

St_Worm2 · Mar 31, 2020

Citizen of the Kingdom · Mar 31, 2020

Whether the Word "Person" Should be Said of God? Enjoy

solid_core · Mar 31, 2020

St_Worm2 said:
What the Trinity is, what it isn't, and why analogies for the Trinity/Godhead never really work. Enjoy

Lol, I must save this video. Good one.

createdtoworship · Mar 31, 2020

St_Worm2 said:
What the Trinity is, what it isn't, and why analogies for the Trinity/Godhead never really work. Enjoy

thanks I like that.

I did use an analogy that does work, the 1X1X1=1 version, I posted in this post:
Is this God?

createdtoworship · Mar 31, 2020

St_Worm2 said:
What the Trinity is, what it isn't, and why analogies for the Trinity/Godhead never really work. Enjoy

St_Worm2 said:

~Cassia~ said:
Whether the Word "Person" Should be Said of God? Enjoy

solid_core said:
Lol, I must save this video. Good one.

below image found on Start here to understand the Trinity (it has many tools and research stuff on the trinity, I hope that helps)

this one may help too:

solid_core · Mar 31, 2020

createdtoworship said:
thanks I like that.

I did use an analogy that does work, the 1X1X1=1 version, I posted in this post:
Is this God?

You can also say 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 = 1.

There is actually nothing in it explaining three persons in perfect unity, it just says that if you have one item, you can say "its just one item" as many times as you want.

As the funny video posted in this thread stated, its probably best to not use any analogies and to simply state the basic facts about Trinity.

klutedavid · Mar 31, 2020

Jesus and the Father have the same name.

John 17:11
I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are.

They have the same name so how can anyone distinguish them?

Carl Emerson · Mar 31, 2020

Lots of ways to explain it...

Here's another.

Father = Source

Son = design/concept/word

Spirit = Sustaining Power

All three are present and unified in any action.

solid_core · Mar 31, 2020

Carl Emerson said:
Lots of ways to explain it...

Here's another.

Father = Source

Son = design/concept/word

Spirit = Sustaining Power

All three are present and unified in any action.

How can a person be a design or a concept or a power?

This explanation needs more explanations than the actual description of Trinity

Carl Emerson · Mar 31, 2020

Sorry it didn't click with you, maybe others will appreciate it.

No explanation is perfect.

createdtoworship · Mar 31, 2020

Carl Emerson said:
Lots of ways to explain it...

Here's another.

Father = Source

Son = design/concept/word

Spirit = Sustaining Power

All three are present and unified in any action.

I like that I have an articLe I will post later about this very analogy....thanks.

Also here is some humor for your average anti trinitarian groups....

Kenny'sID · Mar 31, 2020

Luke 11
1
One day Jesus was praying in a certain place. When he finished, one of his disciples said to him, "Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples."
2
He said to them, "When you pray, say: "`Father, [1] hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. [2]
3
Give us each day our daily bread.
4
Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. [3] And lead us not into temptation. [4] '"
Meaning, we are to pray to the Father, not Christ, and not the Holy Spirit. There is a Hierarchy there and God is like the Boss, Christ is very close to that, but lets call him the foreman with the authority to do all God can (as far as I know) then the Holy Spirit which is the Spirit or "attitude" of the holiness, or goodness of God/Christ inside of us. Or in short, the Holy Spirit is simply the attitude which causes us to strive to be good.

solid_core · Mar 31, 2020

Kenny'sID said:
in short, the Holy Spirit is simply the attitude which causes us to strive to be good.

Are you saying that the Holy Spirit is not a person?

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