Is this for real?

[DogmaHunter]

Eventually we sort it all out.

Sort what out?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Sort what out?

Truth from fiction.

 

[HitchSlap]

Truth from fiction.

Your worldview includes presuppositions that preclude you from doing this ^^^

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Your worldview includes presuppositions that preclude you from doing this ^^^

One could say the same right back.... and so we have gotten nowhere....

 

[HitchSlap]

One could say the same right back.... and so we have gotten nowhere....

You could, but you'd be wrong. Continuing to demonstrate ignorance of a scientific theory because you have a religion is nothing short of narcissistic. Maybe you like reading what you write or think you're making some kind of point, but all I see is one large argument from incredulity with a large side of ignorance. If you pipe down and cool your jets, you just might learn something. Science isn't the devil, and you can still be a Christian and understand why ToE is so robust.

Godspeed.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Your worldview includes presuppositions that preclude you from doing this ^^^

I have a 'heavenly' worldview.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You could, but you'd be wrong. Continuing to demonstrate ignorance of a scientific theory because you have a religion is nothing short of narcissistic. Maybe you like reading what you write or think you're making some kind of point, but all I see is one large argument from incredulity with a large side of ignorance. If you pipe down and cool your jets, you just might learn something. Science isn't the devil, and you can still be a Christian and understand why ToE is so robust.

Godspeed.

ToE is a robust........house of cards.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I don't require a biblical motivation to act morally. And I certainly don't need it to instruct me on what is and isn't moral, nore do I even agree that what it instructs is actually moral.

To be clear, the bible is the written words of God, the instruction book for the benefit of mankind. Within it's pages are the solutions to most if not all of mankind's problems, when applied properly.

 

[HitchSlap]

To be clear, the bible is the written words of God, the instruction book for the benefit of mankind. Within it's pages are the solutions to most if not all of mankind's problems, when applied properly.

Shirley, you jest.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

To be clear, the bible is the written words of God, the instruction book for the benefit of mankind. Within it's pages are the solutions to most if not all of mankind's problems, when applied properly.

I can make the same claim for the Hindu Vedas.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I can make the same claim for the Hindu Vedas.

Of course. The Vedas are the Hindu's bible.

 

[DogmaHunter]

To be clear, the bible is the written words of God, the instruction book for the benefit of mankind. Within it's pages are the solutions to most if not all of mankind's problems, when applied properly.

Yes, you claimed this before, but failed miserably to show how it's true.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I can make the same claim for the Hindu Vedas.

Or the Quran. Or any other religious book.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yes, you claimed this before, but failed miserably to show how it's true.

It's true prima facie. "Do the right thing and good things will happen." -OldWiseGuy

 

[VirOptimus]

It's true prima facie. "Do the right thing and good things will happen." -OldWiseGuy

There are countless examples where this is not true. Really wishing somethiung to be true doesnt make it so.

 

[Shemjaza]

It's true prima facie. "Do the right thing and good things will happen." -OldWiseGuy

I guess when you tack "... and then he went to heaven and lived happily ever after." Onto the end of any Christian's life this might seem reasonable.

Martyrs and persecution demonstrate that within the life we can test and verify, being a good Christian is no guarantee of a good time.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

There are countless examples where this is not true. Really wishing somethiung to be true doesnt make it so.

I believe it's generally true.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

There are countless examples where this is not true. Really wishing somethiung to be true doesnt make it so.

True, because of the immoral people...... But that's no excuse not to do the right thing....

 

[VirOptimus]

I believe it's generally true.

Show me the data.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Show me the data.

It's right in front of you every day, everywhere. It's fact of life.