This appears to be is a little besides the point, though.
In regards to the statement you are referring to "Better to kill than live on your knees" would be more accurate.
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This appears to be is a little besides the point, though.Better to die standing than live on your knees, as they say.
This appears to be is a little besides the point, though.
In regards to the statement you are referring to "Better to kill than live on your knees" would be more accurate.
How´s that disrespectful. I was merely pointing out that my statement that the discussion started from was not "Then apparently people value something higher than their lives" but "Then apparently people value something higher than the absence of violence".How disrespectful to the people who died so you could have your freedom to make your comments.
Which country are we talking about?Those people are fighting for their own lives and the lives of everyone in this country.
Ok, so what´s wrong with the soldiers of another country trying to kill me?Every soldier kills in self defense, if they don't kill they themselves will be killed.
So...?
This seems to confirm my statement: you´d dislike my lack of freedom to speak my mind more than the violence against those that presumably would prevent my freedom to speak my mind.
(On another note, I don´t think you can say (lest guanrantee) anything about how the world would be if history had been different - beyond that it would be different.)
You live a privilleged life. Good men have died and will continue to die in order to protect the freedoms you enjoy.
It is a privellege to live in a society where:
1) You have the time to spend in leisure, on the internet.
2) You have the freedom to openly disagree about any subject.
3) Other people will fight for your freedoms, so that you may stay at home in complete safety.
Do you believe people should stand up for theirselves, the people they love, their country their rights, freedoms?This appears to be is a little besides the point, though.
In regards to the statement you are referring to "Better to kill than live on your knees" would be more accurate.
worse weapons already in use in the untied states :
(don't read if your under 40 or over 30)
http://tinyurl.com/4yo7ja
http://tinyurl.com/rovnd
Firstly, Miracle Storm, what I believe people should do is completely irrelevant for the statement I made.Do you believe people should stand up for theirselves, the people they love, their country their rights, freedoms?
I can´t make sense of the term "right" in this context. I don´t think it´s a good idea, especially since war doesn´t turn violence against persons who have authored the threat.If these people stand, but are threatened with death in return do they not have a right to defend theirselves with equal force?
...and I just pointed out that this (killing as opposed to dieing) would be the relevant statement in response to my post, rather than "living as opposed to dieing" (which was at no point the subject of my statements).Of course we should stand rather than live on our knees, and if that means kill rather than be killed than yes.
, especially since war doesn´t turn violence against persons who have authored the threat.
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Undisputedly.You live a privilleged life.
So? I am still missing the link to my statement that you responded to.Good men have died and will continue to die in order to protect the freedoms you enjoy.
Let alone that I still don´t understand how that relates to my statement in any way, I think that´s a very simplicistic way of looking at a complex issue.It is a privellege to live in a society where:
1) You have the time to spend in leisure, on the internet pontificating about not understanding violence.
2) You have the freedom to openly disagree about any subject.
3) Other people will fight and die for your freedoms, so that you may stay at home in complete safety.
Like it or not, there are wolves, sheep and sheep dogs. You are a sheep, you are proteted from the wolves by the sheep dogs.
But there seems to be something that you are eager to communicate to me in opposition to what I have said, and I don´t seem to get it.I don't hold it against you that you are a sheep in this world.
Well, that´s your prerogative, and I am sure that simplifying things down to three categories of persons is very helpful with that.I am however thankful that there are many sheep dogs who go to work in the world and take on the wolves.
Which already demonstrates that these categories don´t work in the simple way you described.Regardless that many of the sheep are oblivious to the dangers that surround them or the sacrifice that the sheep dogs give. The sheep dogs will always intimdiate the intimidators.
How would being opposed to violence be a logically consistent position for me to take when at the same time I were to appreciate that those who you describe as "facing violence head on" are using violence themselves?Hate violence, avoid violence, but at least be thankful that there are men and women who will face violence and evil head on, so that you may live in peace.
Along with countless others who have not authored the threat but were just willing or unwilling tools or even just bystanders.Pick up a history book. The creators of war have been slaughtered countless times.
And that somehow makes the millions of others that were killed, injured and harmed in these wars non-existent or neglectible?Two recent examples where the authors ( among the most brutal) of war had violence inflicted upon them.
1) Mussolini executed without trial.
2) Hitler, although he killed himself before the Russians reached him.
Along with countless others who have not authored the threat but were just willing or unwilling tools or even just bystanders.
And that somehow makes the millions of others that were killed, injured and harmed in these wars non-existent or neglectible?
That surely would be a convenient position to take, but I can´t seem to summon up the cognitive dissonance that it would require from me.
Along with countless others who have not authored the threat but were just willing or unwilling tools or even just bystanders.
And that somehow makes the millions of others that were killed, injured and harmed in these wars non-existent or neglectible?
Seeker... just gets aggressive and reduces things to name-calling.. Iraq is better off, .
I'm dumber for having read those asinine links.
http://tinyurl.com/4yo7ja
http://tinyurl.com/rovnd
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then you'll probably love those links.
And which idea was that, in your opinion?You presented an idea.
I don´t know that you proved anything. You told me what you are grateful for. and you appealed to me that I should be grateful for it, as well.I proved that your idea was wrong.
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