Is this a Salvation verse?

[dms1972]

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

 

[Aaron112]

What do you think a salvation verse is ?

 

[d taylor]

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

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No.
Verses that state believing in Jesus for eternal life are salvation verses.

John 3:14,15 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
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John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
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John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
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John 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is
condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God.
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John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
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John 5:24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
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John 6: 27,28,29 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”
Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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John 6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believe in Me has everlasting life.
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John 11:25,26,27
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”
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John 20:31
but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

Salvation is not attained with reading a simple verse and simply believing in Jesus, this concept is an oversimplification of the truth. Jesus explained what to do in the writings of Luke, Matthew, John and mark,
Believing is one of the first steps only. I have recently posted a thread on this forum on the path to salvation. here is the link;

The Path to Salvation

The Path to Salvation Salvation is not a single moment of belief but a journey that begins with God's call and continues with faith, obedience, and endurance until the end. Jesus and His disciples taught that true followers of God would remain faithful throughout their lives. This journey...

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Blessings

 

[Soyeong]

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

Indeed, that what salvation and the entire Bible is essentially about. The Bible begins and ends in the Garden with the Tree of Life and everything in between is about the way back to it. When we don't see anything wrong with doing something that God has instructed against or with not doing something that God has instructed, then we have a choice between whether we are going to learn on our own understanding of right and wrong by doing what is right in our own eyes or whether we are going to trust God with all of our heart to correctly divide between right and wrong through obeying His instructions in all of our ways and He will make our way straight (Proverbs 3:1-7). Moreover, this is the difference between eating from the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life (Proverbs 3:18).

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

I have meditated on the verse for many years, like 40+ years.

A couple of thoughts.

First, something simple. He says not to lean on your own understanding. Now, people sometimes use this verse to say not to lean on things that are contrary to common sense logic. However, it goes without saying that we should not trust concepts where we lack understanding. The scripture says:

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge..." Hos 4:6

So don't take this verse to say that you should trust in things you do not understand (as opposed to trusting in things that you do understand). That is not what it is saying at all. There are tons of errors out there where the only proof is, "I would not want a God that I can understand." Phooey. It is always better to have knowledge and understanding.

So what the prophet is saying is when God says one thing and the world says another, and you have to choose what you are going to believe in your heart... go with God! As the Apostle says, "Let God be true and every man a liar." If you tell people what you believe in your hearts, they may think you are lying. Faith is evidence that is not seen. We believe in invisible things. We believe in (in our heart) things that have not manifested yet. It is better to trust in the faithfulness of God than to trust in what we see in the natural. And this is what the verse in question is saying. Trust in the Lord with all you HEART. Faith is of the heart, not the senses or the mind.

Romans 10:8-10 KJV
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

So, in summary:
Do not let your heart trust in the senses or the things that make sense in the natural when they are contrary to what the Lord says.

So yes, this is a salvation verse because it shows you that faith for salvation is of the heart.

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

No, but it is a good verse for living a successful Christian life.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

Salvation is not attained with reading a simple verse and simply believing in Jesus, this concept is an oversimplification of the truth. Jesus explained what to do in the writings of Luke, Matthew, John and mark,
Believing is one of the first steps only. I have recently posted a thread on this forum on the path to salvation. here is the link;

The Path to Salvation

The Path to Salvation Salvation is not a single moment of belief but a journey that begins with God's call and continues with faith, obedience, and endurance until the end. Jesus and His disciples taught that true followers of God would remain faithful throughout their lives. This journey...

www.christianforums.com

Blessings

Salvation is LITERALLY a single moment of belief. That's what it is, nothing more, nothing less. You have everything wrong. If you think going to heaven requires a path of obedience then you're just building your personal tower of Babel. Man can not work his way to heaven, it has to be by God's grace.

 

[d taylor]

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No that is not a salvation verse, but if that verse was followed. It could guide people to verses that are salvation verses. Because the verse states trust in the Lord and do not lean on your own understanding.

Leaning on a persons own understanding leads to false beliefs in how to be saved. Because God put in The Bible one book specifically written to tell people how to have life (eternal life) The Gospel of John.

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

But because people lean on their own understanding. Many ignore God's way to receive Eternal Life salvation by belief in Jesus and try to establish their own way.

 

[fhansen]

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

It's definitely the beginning.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

Jesus gives a further clarification, saying, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Okay but does the Bible say that you have to love Jesus to be saved? What if some people are saved but they don't love him?

Jesus initially directs him to keep the commandments, but then challenges him further. He tells the man to sell all his possessions and follow Him. This statement reveals that belief alone is not enough; following Jesus requires a radical commitment, one that involves self-sacrifice and a willingness to give up what may be most dear in order to follow His path.

So have you sold everything that you own?

Jesus speaks about the sacrifices His followers will face for His sake. He promises, "there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel’s, who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time... and in the age to come, eternal life." Jesus here emphasizes that following Him means prioritizing Him above all else, even relationships and possessions. The reward, however, is eternal life.

No, that does not say that eternal life is a "reward." The word reward doesn't even appear in that passage, you just inserted it there when it wasn't there. The passage is saying that if you do great works you will still have eternal life, although not as a reward. You can even do backflips and still get an eternal life in heaven. But does doing backflips give you an eternal life? You see what I'm saying?

 

[d taylor]

Salvation is LITERALLY a single moment of belief. That's what it is, nothing more, nothing less. You have everything wrong. If you think going to heaven requires a path of obedience then you're just building your personal tower of Babel. Man can not work his way to heaven, it has to be by God's grace.

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I believe i have seen you posting on christian forums before and excuse me if i have post this link to Grace Evangelical Society's website before. They have great and free articles on the teaching that belief in Jesus and how this is only how a person receives God's free gift of Eternal Life.

I hope this site will help you grow in your correct belief about salvation.

Grace Evangelical Society

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

if you do not love God or Jesus son of God you cannot be saved, of this I am absolutely certain

This was for the rich man who put his wealth above all else, Jesus never aked us to be without but help the needy, to help when someone asks

it was a poor choice of words on my part, eternal life is a gift that GOD gives according to His will.

There is something you need to consider about what Jesus said it is important;

John 10:1-18 from the New King James Version (NKJV),

"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers." Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.

Then Jesus said to them again, "Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

"Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.

Peace

Why do you write "peace" to the end if you're constantly continuing this verbal warfare?

No, gifts are not rewards. A gift is something free, not earned in any way whatsoever. Not by obedience, not by works, not by anything. That's what's meant by a gift.

 

[Aaron112]

Whenever someone offers that Jesus said anything akin to you do not have to be without, or you do not have to do without,
that is or may be a false premise in some religious teaching, likely perhaps a building brick in a structure that is not the house that God is working on.

 

[David Lamb]

Okay but does the Bible say that you have to love Jesus to be saved? What if some people are saved but they don't love him?

That isn't the truth presented in the bible. For example, John wrote to Christians:

“We love Him because He first loved us.” (1Jo 4:19 NKJV)

So have you sold everything that you own?

No, that does not say that eternal life is a "reward." The word reward doesn't even appear in that passage, you just inserted it there when it wasn't there. The passage is saying that if you do great works you will still have eternal life, although not as a reward. You can even do backflips and still get an eternal life in heaven. But does doing backflips give you an eternal life? You see what I'm saying?

The gift of eternal life is promised to all who believe on the Lord Jesus Christ:

“"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (Joh 3:16 NKJV)

It's certainly not a reward for doing good:

“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; [it is] the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” (Eph 2:8-10 NKJV)

In those verses, Christians do good works because they have been saved, not in order to be saved.

 

[d taylor]

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A simple fact is not all believers will bear fruit or do good works. Some born again children of God will fall away from the faith, but they still remain a child of God. Many like is stated in John chapter 3 will walk in darkness.

For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Peter hated the light and walked in darkness when he was denying his knowing and being part of Jesus' circle.

Then he began to curse and swear, saying, “I do not know the Man!”

Samson walked in darkness, King Saul walked in darkness, the believers that were drunk at the celebration of The Lord's supper walked in darkness.

 

[David Lamb]

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A simple fact is not all believers will bear fruit or do good works. Some born again children of God will fall away from the faith, but they still remain a child of God. Many like is stated in John chapter 3 will walk in darkness.

For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Peter hated the light and walked in darkness when he was denying his knowing and being part of Jesus' circle.

Then he began to curse and swear, saying, “I do not know the Man!”

Samson walked in darkness, King Saul walked in darkness, the believers that were drunk at the celebration of The Lord's supper walked in darkness.

You say, "A simple fact is not all believers will bear fruit or do good works," yet Paul wrote to Christians that they were saved for good works, in Ephesians 2:8-10, which I quoted in my previous post. Somebody may claim to be a Christian, but if there is absolutely no evidence in the way they live their lives, their claim is, to say the least, suspect.

 

[d taylor]

You say, "A simple fact is not all believers will bear fruit or do good works," yet Paul wrote to Christians that they were saved for good works, in Ephesians 2:8-10, which I quoted in my previous post. Somebody may claim to be a Christian, but if there is absolutely no evidence in the way they live their lives, their claim is, to say the least, suspect.

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Where in that verse does it say all believer will do good works. the verse states that we should walk in them. The verse does not state, that we will walk in them or that we must walk in them.

What about Ananias and Sapphira, they did not walk in good works and God judged them and took their earthly life. But they still remained a born again child of God.

 

[David Lamb]

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Where in that verse does it say all believer will do good works. the verse states that we should walk in them. The verse does not state, that we will walk in them or that we must walk in them.

What about Ananias and Sapphira, they did not walk in good works and God judged them and took their earthly life. But they still remained a born again child of God.

Where in the account of Ananias and Sapphira is it confirmed that they were indeed saved people? I say again that if our lives show absolutely no difference after we say we became Christians, our claims are at least doubtful. We should show love for other Christians, for example. Jesus said:

“"By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."” (Joh 13:35 NKJV)

John wrote:

“In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.” (1Jo 3:10 NKJV)

We know from scripture that love shows itself in action; it's not just a cosy feeling.

 

[d taylor]

Where in the account of Ananias and Sapphira is it confirmed that they were indeed saved people? I say again that if our lives show absolutely no difference after we say we became Christians, our claims are at least doubtful. We should show love for other Christians, for example. Jesus said:

“"By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."” (Joh 13:35 NKJV)

John wrote:

“In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.” (1Jo 3:10 NKJV)

We know from scripture that love shows itself in action; it's not just a cosy feeling.

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If you do not see Ananias and Sapphira as believers, really there is nothing further to discuss. Tell, how can an unbeliever lie to the Holy Spirit.

MP3 Audio link
Saved or Lost?–Ananias and Sapphira – Grace Evangelical Society