Is there anyone willing to take a stand for what is good, right, proper and true?
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"WE'RE READY!!"
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Is there anyone willing to take a stand for what is good, right, proper and true?
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That's classic notto!notto said:Is there anyone willing to take a stand for what is good, right, proper and true?
"WE'RE READY!!"
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Thats Bloody Brilliant.
notto said:Is there anyone willing to take a stand for what is good, right, proper and true?
"WE'RE READY!!"
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I'm hoping Harry and friends can take care of our troll problem. Oh, wait, there not real people.
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Nathan Poe
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Yeah, funny how everyone keeps talking about evolution and creation in a creation/evolution forum...JohnR7 said:
Whatever could we be thinking?
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Big leap there. You are right that 'good, right, and proper' are not concepts that concern science. However you then go on to say that if it isn't against science, it is fine!? I hope you do not honestly think non-theists think that way.JohnR7 said:
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Nathan Poe
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Who is "science?" Is it a living, thinking thing that can make such moral decisions?JohnR7 said:
Of course not. Stop trying to personify science as the boogyman.
(Now comes the part of the post you will most likely ignore)
Science is a tool, nothing more. It is no better or worse than the people who weild it. And some of these people do care about what is "good right, proper, and true" more than even you could.
Many years ago, some of these people split the atom and released a ton of energy. They then got the idea that this could supply enough clean, efficient power to solve the worlds problems. Some other people decided to fashion it into a weapon.
People, using science, gave us the internet. Billions of people use it to communicate around the world every day. Some other people decided to use it to sell porn, as they have done through books, magazines, and artwork since the beginnings of civilization.
People, using science, discovered cures for diseases which has plagued us for years. Some other people decided it was more profitable to use the same process to create new and more lethal diseases.
Sounds like people are to blame, not "science."
You see, Johnny, the one thing "science" can never do is undo. We cannot un-invent, un-discover, or close our eyes and pretend it never happened. So when someone who seeks to do what is not good, right, proper and true, they get to use the same "science" as everyone else to accomplish it.
Don't think it's fair? It is. Sinner or saint; science offers everyone a level playing field.
Don't like it? Take it up with God; tell us what he says.
I almost understand you, John; you're frustrated at all the sin and evil you see in the world. You need someone to blame. Your irrational religious hatred needs something tangible to be directed at. You picked "science" to be your scapegoat.
Why not just blame the devil like everone else, and stop posting nonsense?
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My english is not real good, but I thought this forum was for science, evolution and creation. If it is for just evolution and creation, then should it not read science: evolution vs creationism?Nathan Poe said:
Maybe we need to split this into two seperate forums, one for people who want to deal with issues as they relate to science, and another forum to deal with the evolution vs creation debate.
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The science forum is not a place to talk about science?Arikay said:That is why I do not post Apologetics material in the Science forum.
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So, the answer than is,science is not willing to take a stand for what is good and right and proper and true?Douglaangu said:
Does that mean it's ok to plagerize?
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LOL, now I get it, John is Fishing.
John,
Science is not a religion
Science is not a religion
Science is not a religion
Science has limits
Science has limits
Science has limits
We understand that.
Do you?
John,
Science is not a religion
Science is not a religion
Science is not a religion
Science has limits
Science has limits
Science has limits
We understand that.
Do you?
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If you put it all on a scale, all the good science does compared to the harm that science does, what do you think is going to happen? Will the good outweigh the bad?Nathan Poe said:
Now, project that out into the future. What is going to happen, if a day were to come, when the scale begins to tip in the wrong direction, and science is now doing more harm then good, and harming more people than they help?
Daniel 5:27
Tekel; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
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John, lets see if we can relate this to something you can understand.JohnR7 said:
Is a knife a tool or a weapon?
What is going to happen, if a day were to come, when the scale begins to tip in the wrong direction, and knives are now doing more harm then good, and harming more people than they help?
Are knives willing to take a stand for what is good and right and proper and true?
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Nathan Poe
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JohnR7 said:
Well then John, why not actually say something about science, and not whatever boogyman you're afraid of.
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ooh, ooh, ooh, I wanna do one too,
If you put it all on a scale, all the good christianity does compared to the harm that christianity does, what do you think is going to happen? Will the good outweigh the bad?
Now, project that out into the future. What is going to happen, if a day were to come, when the scale begins to tip in the wrong direction, and christianity is now doing more harm then good, and harming more people than they help?
but to repeat something,
Science has limits
We understand that.
Do you?
If you put it all on a scale, all the good christianity does compared to the harm that christianity does, what do you think is going to happen? Will the good outweigh the bad?
Now, project that out into the future. What is going to happen, if a day were to come, when the scale begins to tip in the wrong direction, and christianity is now doing more harm then good, and harming more people than they help?
but to repeat something,
Science has limits
We understand that.
Do you?
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Nathan Poe
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Um, no John, the answer is that science is not able to take that stand, no more than your car can go anywhere without you behind the wheel...JohnR7 said:
Of course not.
Is it ok to plagiarize on a history paper? No.
Is it ok to plagiarize on a literature paper? No.
Is it ok to plagiarize on a Sunday School paper? No.
What would make science any different except that it's your personal scapegoat for the world's problems?
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I see that Winace is visiting. This thread ought to keep him busy with late night website updates.
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