Is there a place at the table for white men?

[samir]

Then why bring up group differences?

Because it's necessary when you're comparing groups to see whether higher crime rates, income, and things like police brutality are due to discrimination or just differences between groups.

Also, opposing racism can seriously harm or kill black people and other minorities. For example, American advice to African nation's to help them overcome poverty may have failed because they couldn't understand it. If we treated them as less intelligent and dumbed down our advice so they could understand it then it may have saved thousands of people from starving to death. In that situation being racist is part of loving our neighbors.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Because it's necessary when you're comparing groups to see whether higher crime rates, income, and things like police brutality are due to discrimination or just differences between groups.

-_- what if part of the cause is problems of the past that haven't had enough time for their social impact to fade away? For example, differences in income between races used to demonstrably be contributed by racism. While legislation later made that illegal, it's not like it instantly equalized the money people had available or the jobs they held. Since it is much more difficult to move up the social ladder than stay in the spot you were already at, it would take many generations before the impact of the racism of the past would cease to have influence.

Also, opposing racism can seriously harm or kill black people and other minorities.

Oh, do tell. It will be interesting to have you talk about minorities as if what are minorities in your country of origin are the same worldwide. The percentage of black people and white people worldwide is nearly equal, and people of Asian descent are the majority.

For example, American advice to African nation's to help them overcome poverty may have failed because they couldn't understand it.

-_- what advice? Plenty of activities performed by wealthy countries perpetuate poverty in other nations. You get to buy coffee cheap because foreign plantation owners dominate the land, take advantage of misplaced deeds and a lack of literacy to take over land, which forces the people that could once reasonably grow food for themselves to work for an unlivable wage to even have a chance at surviving. You know one of the biggest reasons Haiti's economy remains terrible? People give so much charity to that country that it competes with local businesses. It'd be like giving someone advice about security while you're robbing their house.

If we treated them as less intelligent and dumbed down our advice so they could understand it then it may have saved thousands of people from starving to death.

You say that as if foreign interference didn't make that starvation problem much worse. Did you not take a world history class?

In that situation being racist is part of loving our neighbors.

You are so ignorant that you think that the reason why African nations are plagued heavily by poverty is because people there can't understand how economies work. You would not be of any help to these people.

 

[samir]

South Africa had a thriving economy and was the breadbasket of Africa when white people were in charge. It worked so well they had a problem with illegal immigration. Then, liberals screamed racism, apartheid ended, and black people were put in charge. Now, they can't produce enough food to feed everyone, the murder rate is now one of the highest in the world, and drug abuse is rampant. As a Christian, I'm not happy when people starve to death or are murdered due to the actions of anti-racists.

 

[Paidiske]

Seriously, you just praised apartheid? I lived under apartheid and it was no picnic. Indeed my parents were in a hurry to get out.

South Africa had a thriving economy but millions lived in slums, police oppression was brutal, and access to even basic necessities of life was a daily struggle.

I agree post-apartheid South Africa has problems, but it's not just that black people are in charge. It's partly that South Africa was only ever that great for the white 5% before; now they're trying to provide basic opportunities for everyone, without infrastructure to support that.

I mean, really. You want to go back to this?

 

[super animator]

Because it's necessary when you're comparing groups to see whether higher crime rates, income, and things like police brutality are due to discrimination or just differences between groups.

Also, opposing racism can seriously harm or kill black people and other minorities. For example, American advice to African nation's to help them overcome poverty may have failed because they couldn't understand it. If we treated them as less intelligent and dumbed down our advice so they could understand it then it may have saved thousands of people from starving to death. In that situation being racist is part of loving our neighbors.

That quote will definitely will be part of the FSDT website.

 

[Audacious]

Seriously, you just praised apartheid? I lived under apartheid and it was no picnic. Indeed my parents were in a hurry to get out.

South Africa had a thriving economy but millions lived in slums, police oppression was brutal, and access to even basic necessities of life was a daily struggle.

I agree post-apartheid South Africa has problems, but it's not just that black people are in charge. It's partly that South Africa was only ever that great for the white 5% before; now they're trying to provide basic opportunities for everyone, without infrastructure to support that.

I mean, really. You want to go back to this?

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I'm sure they're not racist; they just prefer white supremacy and non-democracy.

Nothing racist about that!

 

[Non sequitur]

The political table that is. If privileged middle class white men are responsible for the problems of minorities and the poor is there room for well-meaning white men at the table of political discussion. Or are we not welcome there? Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and other activists want a place for minorities at the economic table along with white folks, but do the white folks have to empty their pockets onto the table, and then shut their mouths as well?

It would be racist for them not to have a place at the table.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

It would be racist for them not to have a place at the table.

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[Zed Aliz Zed]

ironic. I recall hearing a protest by the left about how equality and liberalism is white supremacy. it's a bit funny though many of these people who proclaim "white privilege" are white supremacists they are just depressed about it. after all, if everything is equal and white people still do better it would have to mean they are superior. it's the only logical conclusion if you look at the world through their perspective. they're being SJW. it also shows other races are weaker and need more condoling because they are not equal. so truly the most racist people would have to be those siding with Political correctness and social justice

 

[Audacious]

ironic. I recall hearing a protest by the left about how equality and liberalism is white supremacy. it's a bit funny though many of these people who proclaim "white privilege" are white supremacists they are just depressed about it. after all, if everything is equal and white people still do better it would have to mean they are superior. it's the only logical conclusion if you look at the world through their perspective. they're being SJW. it also shows other races are weaker and need more condoling because they are not equal. so truly the most racist people would have to be those siding with Political correctness and social justice

Yeah, but see, we don't have racial equality yet. Black people aren't allowed to be barred from restaurants and public pools, but that didn't cure the problem of racism.

 

[Zed Aliz Zed]

Yeah, but see, we don't have racial equality yet. Black people aren't allowed to be barred from restaurants and public pools, but that didn't cure the problem of racism.

yet that's not a problem of the government. we all have equal rights. as in legal equality. that's all we need. trying for anything else and forced social equality like social representation is not equality. its equal outcome which is communistic and anti-capitalistic.
having equality "equal rights" and not having equal outcome is not racist. after all, there are 100s of measures in place to give minorities shortcuts and handouts that even white people of equal class cant use. shows there is enough assistance. when you have a black president and black people of immense wealth you can never claim to have oppression. oppressive nations don't let minorities run them.

 

[Audacious]

yet that's not a problem of the government. we all have equal rights. as in legal equality. that's all we need. trying for anything else and forced social equality like social representation is not equality. its equal outcome which is communistic and anti-capitalistic.
having equality "equal rights" and not having equal outcome is not racist. after all, there are 100s of measures in place to give minorities shortcuts and handouts that even white people of equal class cant use. shows there is enough assistance. when you have a black president and black people of immense wealth you can never claim to have oppression. oppressive nations don't let minorities run them.

Here's a thread full of proof on systemic racism in America: The Republican Party Should Stop Ignoring Black People

 

[Zed Aliz Zed]

Here's a thread full of proof on systemic racism in America: The Republican Party Should Stop Ignoring Black People

oh, there definitely is some racism. however, racism itself is not possible to ever fully remove. it's human nature.

and the melting pot is not a melting pot if everyone self-segregates. which they do. you throw in a bunch of white blacks and Hispanic and Asian people they will form there own communities and part in like kind. that's, not a melting pot. the melting pot only works if the ingredients are of similar background and hold similar ideals. like how America originally was. Irish/English/French/German. when you throw in exotic ingredients it messes up the dish.

however, there is no legal racism. all have the same rights "except the rich" all have equal right to power and equal right to prosper. there are things in place to assist those who lack the needed foundation. and many use those and succeed just fine. hints the "straight out of Compton" does that mean that your colleagues may dislike you? yes. if I worked in the ghetto at some gas station you can bet your sorry pale ass that i would get some slack for being white. same if I worked in san Frisco china town. thats just how it works.

which is fine. you look to China. you see the Chinese. you see their media and you see it majority Chinese.
same with every other nation.

trying to force everyone to like each other is absurd and Fascistic in its own way