Is there a difference between "Paradise" and "Heaven", or are they one in the same?

[Neogaia777]

What would that mean in any way that makes sense to you and me? That's kind of my point. The very idea of location or "place-ness" or "where-ness" only makes sense in the context of our world of height, depth, etc where you and I experience our every-day lives as physical creatures part of the material, physical universe. the idea of a "place" without location is, essentially, nonsense. Like trying to speak of a square triangle.

I don't mean to offend, you don't have to talk about it if you don't want to anymore, I'll understand... But, the Bible does talk about it as a place of having a hellish or heavenly like "experience" does it not? If we believe what the Bible says...? Sorry...

What Scripture do you think says that God is part of creation? On the contrary Scripture consistently speaks of God being beyond creation, above creation, transcending creation.

I do think that God is beyond and transcends and is above all that we could or can ever know, but I also believe that he is also "in" everything we do and can know... Can you provide scripture that says that God is not "in" or a part (part's not the right word) but literally "is" and is "in" everything and anything, can you please provide scripture that disproves that (please)... Most of the creation account talks about heaven, or God's abode being in the midst or middle of everything...

They don't play nice together because we haven't figured out how to make the math work together for both. They aren't different "realities", the quantum and standard model both describe the same universe: our universe. Just merely describe the universe at different scales.

-CryptoLutheran

But, doesn't the quantum world seem to have a very different set of rules or laws that it goes by, it almost seems like another world, reality or even universe... Are you sure, that "strings" or quarks or whatever other "things" that are in the quantum world, that seem to operate on a completely different set of rules and math than everything else, didn't exist before, or weren't there before, anything else that we know came to be?

Much thanks for your time and patience,

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

God is not everything. That's pantheism and it's wrong.

-CryptoLutheran

OK, OK, calm down... Can I ask you how you come/came to know it's wrong, please...? I really don't want to have to try and dig up all the scripture that says "God's presence (spirit) is among us, in us, in our midst, all around us, with us, ect..." Could you show me scripture to the contrary, not just boldly saying, "It's not true" and "It's wrong" please...? Give me something...

Thanks for your time and patience in dealing with this ever more curious soul,

God Bless!

 

[Stillicidia]

Heaven, to the Saints which are there, has no burden against them, except that they know the word of God and do no sin.
You should be made to know Heaven is very fun, you might think it's very Holy, but half of all of it is just about fun.
Thinking Paradise, maybe one big rollercoaster, those who are there is just like me and you, and God always tries to amaze them.
There are those Saints who are given extra assignments due to mistakes on earth, and the angels have lots of jobs.
The Saints will exist to live though.