Is there a case for levels of anointing in scripture ??

[mrhappy3]

Benny Hinn says YES.

leper - born again version

priestly - baptised in Spirit version

and

Kingly

-the anointing that FALLS AS GOD wills as he done to some Old testament saints.

wot do ya reckon ?

 

[Frogster]

Well, I guess some walked in more power than others. Yet Paul says seek the gifts, he does not really say the "anointing".

But I am sceptical of the anointing word, because every time I watch these TV people, everything seems to be "anointed", they say they feel the anointing when they preach, therfore the they self validate by saying they are anointed.

We see them say they feel the anointing, as the say send in money, so I dunno...I am just kind of jaded with the whole anointed thing.

Especially the word for the most part means sort of like chosen, yet we see it with oil, but all and all...I guess one could say they were "in the anointing" in a loose manner, maybe that is the problem, it is used way to loosely today.

χρίω (chri&#333
Strong: G5548

GK: G5987

to anoint; in NT to anoint, by way of instituting to a dignity, function, or privilege, Lk. 4:18; Acts 4:27; 10:38; 2 Cor. 1:21; Heb. 1:9

So, anway, Paul walked in a higher power level than others did, but again, if it really is the "anointing", then it is by God, and that means that the power level was mandated by God, so people should not feel inferior to those who are "more anointed", that would go against gifts of grace, charis, that are by and in conjunction with (grace)charis/charisma, the Spirit.


Romans 1:11 For I am longing to see you so that I may share with you some spiritual gift to strengthen you—


Ummmm..also, with all due respect to Benny, there are better sources for Bible study, than him.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

I say no... What may outwardly appear as a greater anointing to some is actually exactly what God intended for that individual to have.

1 Corinthians 12:11
11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

1 Corinthians 12:18
18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be.

1 Corinthians 12:24
God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it

1 Corinthians 12:28
God has placed in the church

So no... there is no such thing as a greater anointing, only those who teach such things to gain an audience and perhaps money from such teachings. Not in a sadistic way, perhaps (hopefully) misguided.

God gives us all a task and purpose. We fulfill it exactly as we are assigned and that is the greatest anointing anyone can have, to be perfectly in the will of God.

 

[geetrue]

It's almost as if you need someone else to decide what anointing you are in ...

You know what I mean?

Look how many people are deceived by the false revivals ... don't the leaders of false revivals believe that they are anointed and the men and women in the audience being slain in the spirit believe that is the anointing that has slain them?

Yet as we all know and some will argue the anointing is a false one.

"If the devil couldn't deceive you ... he wouldn't try now would he"

 

[Frogster]

It's almost as if you need someone else to decide what anointing you are in ...

You know what I mean?

Look how many people are deceived by the false revivals ... don't the leaders of false revivals believe that they are anointed and the men and women in the audience being slain in the spirit believe that is the anointing that has slain them?

Yet as we all know and some will argue the anointing is a false one.

"If the devil couldn't deceive you ... he wouldn't try now would he"

good post.

 

[like eagleswings]

yes i used to go out whith a team,evangelism years ago, we were all had an anointing.
to witness. filled up whith love,fearless,the love is amasing as you see how strong Gods love is for man.
the anonting wears of next day,to many holes in me, back to the dogged walk,of battling the flesh,thats against the spirit.

so the anonting is Gods power, on people via prayer for a specific purpose, ie street evangelism. and thats Gods will

 

[Optimus Fortis]

This might be a difference between the faith movement and modern charismatics as I don't think than anyone who has been regenerated, baptised in the Holy Ghost needs 'a double portion', 'a fresh anointing', 'fire', 'rivers' etc.

He has been given THE measure of faith which is the size of a mustard seed.

I am currently reading Jon Welton's 'Normal Christianity' which says that Book of Acts events should be considered normal and that historical revivals began when people stepped out in faith.

 

[ToBeBlessed]

Anointings also seem to be things (I use that term loosely) that are passed down from one person to another. It seems to be used/intertwined sometimes with the word mantle. Passing your mantle to the next person.

Doesn't seem all that 'I can do ALL things through CHRIST who strengthens me' or a particular blessing of the Holy Spirit?

 

[turned around]

Hi,
Hey we got it all we've been baptized into Christ (Galatians 3:27).

Grace to you.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Benny Hinn says YES.

leper - born again version

priestly - baptised in Spirit version

and

Kingly

-the anointing that FALLS AS GOD wills as he done to some Old testament saints.

wot do ya reckon ?

i'd say stages of maturity, levels of anointing makes it like a video game or scientology .

 

[tturt]

In Exo 35, Bezaleel was given The Spirit of God (which includes the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord Isa 11:2). He's the first one I see in Scripture where it states he was given The Spirit of God and enabled him to build the tabernacle under Moses' administration. This supports likeeagleswings post I believe.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

In Exo 35, Bezaleel was given The Spirit of God (which includes the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord Isa 11:2). He's the first one I see in Scripture where it states he was given The Spirit of God and enabled him to build the tabernacle under Moses' administration. This supports likeeagleswings post I believe.

That was a different dispensation though. In Corinthians 12 Paul clearly states God places us exactly where He wants us. It may seem that there are different anointings, but if the job you have is what God wants from you how can that be considered any less of an anointing than another? It can't, only by those who want to brag about their said anointing.

 

[mrhappy3]

As I say, God can do what he wants to do - it appears from Bezaleel, he was not a prophet or king or priest - he was the ONLY ordinary believer who was given such. His 'anointing' no doubt came UPON him for such a task, it certainly was not IN him like we get it, a sealing.. (and whether it was permanent or not - we don't know) In fact you could call it a BAPTISM in the SPIRIT of sorts. Interesting.

 

[ToBeBlessed]

That was a different dispensation though. In Corinthians 12 Paul clearly states God places us exactly where He wants us. It may seem that there are different anointings, but if the job you have is what God wants from you how can that be considered any less of an anointing than another? It can't, only by those who want to brag about their said anointing.

I don't like the word anointing, maybe because it seems like an action people do or pass down. Is anointing different from the strength and wisdom we get to do God's will from the Holy Spirit?

I don't like to 'define' a word per se, but this one, anointing I'd like defined. Is there anyone but the Holy Spirit that can anoint us?

 

[tturt]

Also, regarding Bezaleel "And he hath put in his heart that he may teach, both he, and Aholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan." Transferring the anointing?

Yeah, I know it's a different dispensation but as MrH3 says, he was an ordinary believer who was given much. Yeah, isn't it interesting? ! It was fun searching Exo 35 for 7 Spirits of Yahweh.

The fear of The Lord is opposite to the fear of man. Having the fear of The Lord means we chose what Yahweh wants in spite of others think including ourselves. Saul is a Biblical example of having the fear of man (I Sam 13:11; I Sam 15:15, 30).

Our Bible teacher says that The Spirit of the Lord is the umbrella that includes all listed in Isa 11:2. Supported by Exo 35 with Bezaleel. He ordained, He anointed him to do His purpose.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

I don't like the word anointing, maybe because it seems like an action people do or pass down. Is anointing different from the strength and wisdom we get to do God's will from the Holy Spirit?

I don't like to 'define' a word per se, but this one, anointing I'd like defined. Is there anyone but the Holy Spirit that can anoint us?

1 John 2:20
But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.

1 John 2:27
But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him.

John 16:13-15
13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

Just defining from scripture, from the pen of the Apostle John, the "anointing" is the Holy Spirit. That is why I have said repeatedly here, we all have the same "anointing" and whichever way it is manifested is exactly how God wants it. Surely there is no greater anointing than that, to be perfectly in the will of the Father.

Also, regarding Bezaleel "And he hath put in his heart that he may teach, both he, and Aholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan." Transferring the anointing?

Yeah, I know it's a different dispensation but as MrH3 says, he was an ordinary believer who was given much. Yeah, isn't it interesting? ! It was fun searching Exo 35 for 7 Spirits of Yahweh.

The fear of The Lord is opposite to the fear of man. Having the fear of The Lord means we chose what Yahweh wants in spite of others think including ourselves. Saul is a Biblical example of having the fear of man (I Sam 13:11; I Sam 15:15, 30).

Our Bible teacher says that The Spirit of the Lord is the umbrella that includes all listed in Isa 11:2. Supported by Exo 35 with Bezaleel. He ordained, He anointed him to do His purpose.

I agree that in the Old Covenant, there were various levels of anointing. But in the New Covenant, enacted by the blood of Christ, the new dispensation, the dispensation of the Spirit, God living in man, there is no such thing as one believer having a greater anointing than another. The "anointing" is the Holy Spirit, and that would only be possible if there were different Holy Spirit's IMHO

 

[ToBeBlessed]

1 John 2:20
But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.

1 John 2:27
But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him.

John 16:13-15
13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

Just defining from scripture, from the pen of the Apostle John, the "anointing" is the Holy Spirit. That is why I have said repeatedly here, we all have the same "anointing" and whichever way it is manifested is exactly how God wants it. Surely there is no greater anointing than that, to be perfectly in the will of the Father.

Thanks for the scripture references. I agree.

It is one of those words that seems to take on a life of it's own when used by people and especially those who seek to pass on an 'anointing' to others, share their anointing and/or receive an anointing from another person.

Takes the focus off of God and the Holy Spirit to man. The Holy Spirit IMO is treated less as God than the Father or the Son. People command the Holy Spirit. Really disrespectful. They would never think of offending Jesus, but the Holy Spirit seems less respected.

 

[tturt]

Yes today's believers have The Spirit of The Lord but I had rather hear an anointed singer even if they're lacking in some area for example.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Yes today's believers have The Spirit of The Lord but I had rather hear an anointed singer even if they're lacking in some area for example.

That's what I'm saying though, all believers are anointed... because the "anointing" is the Holy Spirit who all believers have.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

That's what I'm saying though, all believers are anointed... because the "anointing" is the Holy Spirit who all believers have.

exactly

also God gives grace to the humble and opposes the proud .. comes to mind .