It most certainly is! The evidence is not only world-wide it is overwhelming. The cataclysmic conditions of the Noahic deluge is really the only answer to the billions of fossils found by geologists and the trillions still yet unearthed.
There are many such fossils beds where thousands of animals of all types (some now extinct) seemingly migrated to the same high elevation in different places all over the earth and were killed together at the same time. Did all those organisms just arbitrarily decide to migrate to the same locations and die at the same time............OR.........were they animals that were seeking higher ground to get away from rising flood waters and were subsequently crushed/fossilized instantly by falling volcanic ash? Genesis 7 gives us good reason to believe the latter since the former makes no sense.
Also, how about this:
A couple of dinosaurs that were instantly fossilized in the act of mortal combat as they were discovered in the middle of the Gobi desert. One thing for certain: it was a great catclysm that caused this for they certainly did not stand there for millions of years waiting to be covered over inch-by-inch as per the slow and gradual 'evolutionary' process.
"Billions of dead things buried by rock layer laid down by water all over the Earth." I remember the song. There are numerous reasons that things were fossilized. The thing is that they tend to be in a predictable layers of the strata.
Even AiG does not believe that the dinos in the above were fighting. They certainly were not "instantly fossilized".
The point was and is: that work week is not a six thousand, six million, nor a six billion year week. Nor was the Sabbath day a seven thousand year, seven million year, nor a seven billion year Sabbath.
The point is there is absolutely no theological reason that holding a belief in Theistic Evolution or Evolutionary CREATIONISM constitutes heresy.
God did it the way He said He did it.
So, the moon is a light? Is the sun a different creation from the stars? Maybe God accepted their understanding in order to convey a greater truth.
The seven day week we were given is as old as written human history. You cannot escape that fact. Here's why:
Quote: "The origin of the seven-day week is the religious significance that was placed on the
seventh day by ancient cultures, including the
Babylonian and
Jewish civilizations. Jews celebrated every seventh day, within a continuous cycle of seven-day weeks, as a holy day of rest from their work, in remembrance of the creation week.
Similarly, the Babylonians celebrated the seventh day of each seven-day week as a holy day, but adjusted the number of days of the final week in their month so that their monthly
calendar would always commence on the
new moon.
This may further be reflected in the contemporary and traditional Zoroastrian calendars that relates to the first, seventh and so on days of the month as pertaining to Ahura Mazda (God).[
citation needed]
Historically, a number of other cultural groups, such as Christians and Muslims, have continued to regularly hold religious events on a specific day within each seven-day week." (from Wikipedia)
So the literal seven day week was observed and utilized by even the most ancient of pagans.
I know they come from a common background. Abraham was called out from Ur where polytheists and forerunners of Zoroastrianism were common. Zoroastrianism is a corruption of what became Judaism.
Watch using this though. Many liberal scholars and skeptics use this to show how the Jews in captivity brought back a corrupted view of Zoroastrianism and composed the OT after they rebuilt the Temple.
I gave you the history of the beliefs of our forefathers and you diss the matter without a reason.
Forget Philo. Where were the theistic evolutionists in the 1st of 2nd century? Search in vain, friend. You will be hard-pressed to find one because the faithful believers all accepted the literal six-day creation account by Moses in Genesis.
Origen said that the Genesis account was to be taken figuratively. Theophilus wrote that all of what God did during creation could not be told with a thousand tongues. Ireneaus and Cyprian used the day is a thousand year explanation. I have not done that. I am just showing that their was discussion at that time.
I do not think that they knew that microscopic life caused disease either. Our understanding has come a long way since the first century.
It is interesting that you accept a view that you wish to hold and use the ECF's as a reason, but in another thread, you reject their clear teaching of transsubtantiation. Jesus taught it. Paul said that the Corinthians should discern the "body of Christ". Pliny the Younger wrote to Trajan stating that the Christians ate ordinary food. Justin Martyr is translated as calling it transmutation.
Then why take Jesus literally on anything? Why believe He performed miracles, healed the sick, or even raised the dead? Since you and those like you arbitrarily changed the history of Genesis as a 'storybook tale' (i.e. like Aesops Fables?) then why believe anything that Jesus did and said was literal? The fact is that Jesus told us that the Genesis account was real and literal (Mark 10:6, for example), and so did every single writer of the N.T. who mentioned Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, & Noah. Not one of them regarded the account of those people and their deeds as ANYTHING LESS THAN HISTORICAL than what Moses did, or Joshua, or Elisha, or Jonah.
I believe in the inerrant word of God. All of history is riddled with miracles of God every since the Creation. Jesus miracles are well documented. If they were not true, they would have been refuted at the time. Even Jesus enemies wrote of Him as someone who did signs and wonders.
Genesis is a book rich in history, salvific history, prophecy, and theology. I have not dismissed it as a book of fables.
I never disputed the historicity of any of the people you mentioned. I affirm that God created male and female and that He pronounced them married as the fundamental institution to civilize His creation.
W. L. Craig stated in a debate with Hitchens that given the exponential probability of everything coming togther at the beginning, the fact that we are here is miraculous.
But because neo-Darwinian thought has poisoned your mind about the matter for you don't believe ANY of the N.T. writers about the literal/historical nature of Genesis concerning the six-day creation.
Or the framework.
But you lie to them when you ignore(?) dismiss(?) or explain away(?) the accuracy of the ages and/or time frames that are given by Genesis. How tragic.
I found it unprofitable to debate Genesis in evangelism when I was a YEC. Paul and Jesus met people where they were. If they come to a saving knowledge of Jesus, they can follow their convictions.
So I ask you; was Adam's father an ape? What was the cause of death in the world before Adam's fall in sin? Name it.
I stated in an earlier post that I do not think that apes and
Homo sapiens are in the same taxonmy classification. Just as now, death has no single cause. Things were eaten, driven off cliffs, drowned, etc. Jesus resurrection did not stop death; it justified us in God's eyes. Human resurrection is guaranteed to happen. The only difference between a follower of Jesus and the lost is the final destination of their resurrected self.
No, there isn't. You just swallowed the lie.
This chart represents the accelerated decay rates of the zircons found in rocks revealing that helium decay at a far faster rate than the uranium contents and gave us the stunning age of approx. 6,000 yrs. The fact that there is still C14 found in coal from all over the world makes that claim that much more substantive. At present known rates of C14 decay there shouldn't be any. The problem is that you and those of your persuasion are listening to the wrong voices...voices that are critical of scripture and the time frame God has clearly given us.
I will look into this again. I was never satisfied on this point either way.
I asked you in another post about your feeling toward other YEC's. I have heard them use any where from 6000 t0 20,000 as much as 50,000 years. Do you think they have to hold to your 6000 year doctrine?
Stop. Your whole position is that the evidence from nature gives us a far different frame of reference as to the age of the earth than do the chronologies of scripture add up to. So don't give me that nonsense.
My understanding? The time frame of scripture is objective....do you know what that means?
Use any calculator to ascertain the time frame as given in the ages found in Genesis and any other chronology and see if one is justified in believing that God's Word allows for much more than a 6,000 yr time frame. Bishop Ussher was closer to the truth than are modern neo-Darwinians. He will get the last laugh.
I do not claim to be inerrant or have total understanding. I have worked through th chronologies.
Both. Spiritual death is the cause of physical death...but it was spiritual death first.
I addressed this above.
No one said it is. But what it says touching on science or history is accurate and we can trust it because it came from God Himself. Darwinism did not.
The moon is not a light. The Earth revolves around the sun. God spoke to their understanding. He did not correct their understanding, for the most part ( the life IS in the blood).
No, we are created in the image of God and we did not evolve from any lower form of life. Since you differ then offer genetic evidence that 48 chromosome apes can genetically be crossed with 46 chromosome human beings. Name the common ancestor and then demonstrate biologically that such a change took place. Actually, humans share the same number of chromosomes with tobacco. We are we not therefore twin brothers with tobacco rather than a common ancestor with apes?
Yes, we are created in
imago dei. I do not have a PhD in biology or chemistry. I do know that chromosomes are different and that plants are in a different kingdom in the classification system.
You quoted me saying: "So you believe the anthropologists and paleontologists over God's Word. What should have the highest priority in your mind takes a back seat to neo-Darwinian scholarship. I get you. But then tell us...why did God even bother giving us the ages of the antediluvians and the patriarchs and in fact the whole tribe of Israel...to begin with?"
I follow the Wesleyan quadrilateral. Scripture is top point of the rhombus. The other points are tradition/history, reason, and experience.
Many of the ECF's had Jesus born 5500 years after the creation. Hard to reconcile. We do not have the original autographs.
You are the one deceived...by believing the interpretations of the geologic time frame as taught by skeptics who have no respect for God's Word. I gave you evidence from above that reveals the approx. 6,000 yr time frame of creation. There is much more but you choose not to believe it.
N. T. Wright, Alistair Mcgrath, the ID guys at Discovery Institute, Roman Catholic Church, BioLogos, nor my own denomination are hardly skeptics and have the highest regard for scripture.
The litmus test is what God says about it. I am sorry you have chosen to believe the theistic evolution lie. I once held that position myself but I came to realize with a careful reading of scripture and weighing all the facts that TE was worthless as a science and unbiblical in it's tenents.
I respect that you changed your position.
What you have rejected is what the Word of the Lord says about His creation as far as the time frame that it allows...by any honest calculation.
The numbers are questioned by many.
Ken Ham was right and you were wrong. He had good reasons for what he said and I am with him all the way on this matter. There really isn't any excuse to compromise what is clearly written in scripture with any sort of worldly philosophy.
Yes. Ham has million$$$of reasons each year to fight tooth and nail for his statements. Then whine or bully any group that questions him.
(Ad hominem) He may actually believe what he says.
Then toss out anything you concluded as it compromises with evolution or long time frames because that is contrary to both biblical and scientific truth. you will know that when we are come before the judgment seat of Christ.
I will follow my convictions. I am constantly reviewing information.
The fact that you would compare those two men in the same breath tells us that you don't know what it going on in the creationist world. I am a retired H.S. science teacher with 26 yrs experience & I taught general science, including biology, astronomy, & physics.
Ham and Hovind have the credibility of Hal Lindsey and Benny Hinn. Mostly carnival barkers. They are an embarrassment.
Oh, yes it is and God is not pleased with it. Furthermore, He is going to erase Darwinism from the earth during the millenial kingdom. In fact, at best, it will be the laughing stock of the whole world.
I do not believe that evolution will be happening in the Millenial kingdom. I do think we will have much more to occupy us in the presence od th eternal Lord