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I think that goes with how St. Bede interprets the meaning of the mark of the beast:“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” (Revelation 13:16–17)
“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.” (Revelation 14:1)
Notice the mark is symbolic, not literal.
How does one receive it? By placing laws that force one to sin above God's precepts.
It has existed throughout history and to a degree in the USA recently when Christian businesses could not buy or sell unless they complied with sinful laws. Those who supported the laws received the mark.
I think its funny that you have ant-man as your profile pic. See I'm an avid believer that hollywood puts truths of the past and glimpses of the future to prepare us for whats coming. I was watching the new ant-man and not only did I find striking similarities in whats happening now but I found a ton of "hidden" references to Genesis 6Don't count on that.
Where do you draw the line?You're dodging the point I made. Do you agree the entire book of Revelation is not symbolic?
Have you looked into alien abduction syndrome any? An almost universal feature of the syndrome is the belief that ones eggs or sperm has been harvested and a hybrid child is born from it.
Less common, but still prevalent is an experience of someones soul being inserted in another body and soul manipulation. One of the most interesting things are the implants. Little pieces of metal or glass that somehow get imbedded into the persons flesh without any entry marks. The reason why it's interesting is that during some of the more difficult excorcisms, when the demon is expelled they vomit up random things like red string or a bit of glass.
If you view the modern era in view of the demonic trade in Enoch it becomes almost certain we are in that age. In 50 years we went from a few cars and many still on horses to walking on the moon. Compare that to how long it took to go from the bronze age to the Iron age. We live in a historical anomoly far greater then the megalithic structures left behind by a long forgotten era.
In the end days Knowledge will be increased and people will wander to and fro over the earth. Boy This actually goes along with my beliefs.I kind of get frustrated trying to explain because most don't believe me are think I'm nuts but In my studies I've come to the conclusion that all of this is related and will all be used for the coming great deception. I'm an avid believer that Hollywood tells us plans for the future to get us desensitized but also because it says in the bible that the wicked plans created in the darkness with be brought out into the light. I think this is a law set by God that makes sure the plans of Satan cannot catch us by surprise and Hollywood is bound by this law to reveal even the slightest truth. In saying that, there was a television show on a couple of years ago named "Extant". Without going into a ton of detail it was about an astronaut who was impregnated by an alien wile she was alone in the space station in the not too distant future. She ends up having a hybrid that grows at an enhanced rate. At the same time, A.I. androids are a thing. Long story short the aliens were making a lot of hybrids to get the earth ready for an invasion. I child robot that the astronaut "made" learned of this and went on a mission to save humanity from his "brother". The made military androids and named the girl Lucy and the man Lucas (funny they both sound like lucifer). Don't even get me started on the movie "Lucy". anyway, the military robots turn on humans. The hybrids end up being innocent and they help with the androids, blah blah blah. It actually sounds like a great deception. Man will not know what to believe because satan will attack for many different ways, aliens and robots saying that they are both our saviors. Now the thing that never made sense to me if it was "just a show" was there were many hidden symbols and meanings that referenced the book of enoch, fallen angels, and Nephilim.Now the flood was because of these creatures, to wipe them out but we know that the bloodline wasn't completely gone because giants showed back up after the flood What I didn't quite get was why they named the show what the did. Extant literally mean to still exist. Sort of like in the end days like that of the days of Noah.Have you looked into alien abduction syndrome any? An almost universal feature of the syndrome is the belief that ones eggs or sperm has been harvested and a hybrid child is born from it. Less common, but still prevalent is an experience of someones soul being inserted in another body and soul manipulation. One of the most interesting things are the implants. Little pieces of metal or glass that somehow get imbedded into the persons flesh without any entry marks. The reason why it's interesting is that during some of the more difficult excorcisms, when the demon is expelled they vomit up random things like red string or a bit of glass.
If you view the modern era in view of the demonic trade in Enoch it becomes almost certain we are in that age. In 50 years we went from a few cars and many still on horses to walking on the moon. Compare that to how long it took to go from the bronze age to the Iron age. We live in a historical anomoly far greater then the megalithic structures left behind by a long forgotten era.
It really hasn't Even though you can make a valid argument that it has happened in the Known world it hasn't happened throughout the entire world, all at once. Though I am a big proponent on satan using cheap ripoffs of God's plan to confuse the masses and the Holy roman empire and Catholicism has a major role to play in the tribulation and great deception considering it has always been a false, polytheist poor substitute to Christianity.This has already happened time and again in history. Consider the domination over the world by the Papacy or Nero.
The whole world in bible days limits the use of the term. What took place in the Roman Empire and following was the whole world.It really hasn't Even though you can make a valid argument that it has happened in the Known world it hasn't happened throughout the entire world, all at once. Though I am a big proponent on satan using cheap ripoffs of God's plan to confuse the masses and the Holy roman empire and Catholicism has a major role to play in the tribulation and great deception considering it has always been a false, polytheist poor substitute to Christianity.
Thank you. I will look into these.Steven, are you acquainted with the works of Jacques Ellul? If not, I suggest you look them (and him) up. One good place to start is his book The presence of the Kingdom. He doesn't go into the details that you seem to be interested in, in this book, but you will get a sense of why and how things have got the way they are, and the Church's part in this process. Others of his writings will take you into deeper issues relating to the dehumanisation of "humankind" - which of course is the goal of the Evil One. It is here that you will find the whole process of the attempted transformation of human kind from people to units of production (and consumption), then to be replaced through mechanisation and automation, and ultimately to be subjected to mechanical and electronic/digital "intelligence."
You might also appreciate William Stringfellow - An Ethic for Christians and other Aliens in a strange land. Stringfellow's starting point is the Book of Revelation in terms of attempting "to understand America Biblically." He is very clear on the current subservience what he calls the "morality of death." This is, or should be, a deeply disturbing book for Americans to read - written in the days of Nixon, it is astounding how current it is today, 40 years later.
In the last few months, an A.I driven drone almost crashed head on with a plane, An A.I robot in Russia escaped the lab and blocked traffic during his meanderings. This wouldn't be much but it is the only hive mind A.I. that tried to escape and when it was shut down and reprogrammed it continued to search for a way out 3 other times, and it was reprogrammed each time. Now they are leaving it online to study why it is acting this way. And finally facebook had to shut down 2 of it's A.I.'s because they started to talk to each other in a language they made up. I freaked the techs out so much because they had no idea what they were talking about
I do agree with that. I actually made a connection of the one world gov't to the eu and brexxit as the start of the mortal wound. The one disagreeing point I have with that is Jesus said before the end comes the gospel will be preached throughout the world.If he meant only the "known" world at the time we would have been over many hundreds of years ago. also when he said that man will wander to and fro throughout the world. people were already travelling the "known" world since before his timeThe whole world in bible days limits the use of the term. What took place in the Roman Empire and following was the whole world.
Honestly in my opinion there have been no true catholic exorcisms. Not saying that priests haven't thought they were successful. There heavy dogma and traditions of men to expel a demon flies in the face of what Jesus taught. A real demon that was being expelled would laugh in their faces or act like the demon that pummeled the sons of sceva.I only read about it in Catholic exorcisms. The first I heard about it, if i'm recalling correctly, was in one of Gabriel Amorths books. I have heard of vomit in deliverance (protestant), upon the demon leaving, but I have not heard of any objects in protestant exorcisms either. But at the time I was researching there weren't many reliable protestant books on the subject.
I'm not quite sure where you stand on this? do you believe that Aliens, Hauntings and such are just demons trying to hide what they really are, or do you actually believe in aliens and such?There was enmity put between those entities' seed, and man's seed. They need to use genetic engineering. Look at the abduction techniques done to alleged humans, and how we humans abduct our alleged "lower" creatures:
- target animal with a "tranquilizer" (who know what it actually does to their minds)
- kidnap them from their natural habitat
- study them in seclusion - under the scrutiny of other persons with foreign stimulation (i.e. fluorescent lighting)
- take what we want from them (genetics, organs, etc.)
- If the animal is lucky, they go back out into their population chipped, tagged and monitored.
Humans learned it from the same entities that did it to them in antiquity (and, depending on what you believe, are still doing it.)
That's interesting. I have never seen an actual exorcism, but I do think there is an explanation that has always been simple. Finding objects being ejected out of people could be something as *understandable* as a remote technology whose resonance is spiritual (why prayer actually works.) The entities responsible for possession also have "natural" ability to warp our laws of nature, so residue that could be meant to confuse/monitor/control is not uncommon in spiritual assault.
Exactly. Far more anomalous than Stonehenge, Nazca, submerged gigantic cities and pyramids, etc. Put in the context of Genesis 6 and Enoch, it is clear who these structures were built for, and why they were there. It also makes sense why they are submerged, or geologically displaced (i.e. pyramid cities buried in thick jungle, or megaliths under sand or ice.)
I like to use a term that I coined called "the trinity of prophesy". I believe it can be proven that prophesy is more than one thing....sometimes more than 3. Like Nebuchadnezzar's statue in daniel 2. Scholars have proven that it had literal, worldly, prophecies of the coming, ruling nations at that time. Its also common belief to know that it shows the return of Christ and the destruction of the last empire.that's 2 meanings to one prophesy. I honestly believe that there is also a revelation to prophesy that is only revealed through prayer for wisdom of the holy spirit. This revelation by the grace of God tells us how the end time events will take place. Like in my opinion (I know it sounds crazy) but the statue represents the abomination of desolation which is an android body possessed by the Antichrist, hence why a statue would strike fear in a king, and why it was so tall, representing the Nephilim. Also the last empire, toes of iron and clay is broken along with Daniel saying the will try to mix their seed with ours but it wont work just like iron and miry clay does not work .I think The prophesy in revelation is literal and symbolic and the same timeWhere do you draw the line?
Lol...Notice the mark is symbolic, not literal.
The mark represents people placing sinful laws above God. It's not literal. If it was do you think any would allow it after all the "end time horror stories" the rapturists have propagated?Lol...
Well there you have it.
We can take any and all Man Made Mark, just so long as it's physical... including your DNA... it's OK with God!
Just look out for those symbolic ones! They'll get you every time.
Sorry, but that's a very dangerous, not to mention disturbing, opinion.
I for One will not fall for it.
We're out there OP, and we're doing everything we can to try and wake people up, but we're up against a very Powerful Spirit here.I'd love to hear if anyone else believes that they have been shown this and what proof of scripture they have been pointed to.
I only read about it in Catholic exorcisms. The first I heard about it, if i'm recalling correctly, was in one of Gabriel Amorths books. I have heard of vomit in deliverance (protestant), upon the demon leaving, but I have not heard of any objects in protestant exorcisms either. But at the time I was researching there weren't many reliable protestant books on the subject.
People, and even you might receive the mark if you think it is literal. You won't recognize the real mark looking for a literal one. There will never be a literal 666 worn by anyone.We're out there OP, and we're doing everything we can to try and wake people up, but we're up against a very Powerful Spirit here.
I have tons of info, I'm not sure where to even begin.
The mark represents people placing sinful laws above God. It's not literal. If it was do you think any would allow it after all the "end time horror stories" the rapturists have propagated?
any good links on those stories?In the last few months, an A.I driven drone almost crashed head on with a plane, An A.I robot in Russia escaped the lab and blocked traffic during his meanderings. This wouldn't be much but it is the only hive mind A.I. that tried to escape and when it was shut down and reprogrammed it continued to search for a way out 3 other times, and it was reprogrammed each time. Now they are leaving it online to study why it is acting this way. And finally facebook had to shut down 2 of it's A.I.'s because they started to talk to each other in a language they made up. I freaked the techs out so much because they had no idea what they were talking about
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