Is the Trinity explicitly taught?

[DamianWarS]

There are lots of verses that point to the trinity and although the word itself doesn't appear in scripture is it still thought of as an explicit doctrine or is the the concept of the trinity more of an implicit doctrine?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Even (many of) the trinitarians of every flavor have acknowledge that it is not explicitly referred to anywhere in Scripture.

 

[mkgal1]

I'd say it's more of an implicit doctrine, because there are still people that can interpret things differently (dividing up the Trinity, for instance)....and use the Bible as their support for their arguments.

 

[Albion]

Even (many of) the trinitarians of every flavor have acknowledge that it is not explicitly referred to anywhere in Scripture.

Nope. Only the word is absent from Scripture. The evidence of God being One in Trinity is unmistakable and unavoidable, however, just judging from Scripture.

 

[Albion]

I'd say it's more of an implicit doctrine, because there are still people that can interpret things differently (dividing up the Trinity, for instance)....and use the Bible as their support for their arguments.

Well, we know people who can tease almost any unorthodox notion out of Scripture, don't we? The point is that the misuse of Scripture is not a proof of anything.

 

[DamianWarS]

Well, we know people who can tease almost any unorthodox notion out of Scripture, don't we? The point is that the misuse of Scripture is not a proof of anything.

Are you saying it's explicitly taught?

 

[dreadnought]

There are lots of verses that point to the trinity and although the word itself doesn't appear in scripture is it still thought of as an explicit doctrine or is the the concept of the trinity more of an implicit doctrine?

It is my understanding that we are not allowed to discuss this matter unless we agree with the administrators' point of view.

 

[Barney2.0]

Is the word Trinity in the Bible, no it isn’t. But does the Bible make refference to the doctrine of the Trinity and can we piece together the doctrine of the Trinity from the Bible. The answers to those questions are, yes it does and yes we can.

 

[Dave-W]

The evidence of God being One in Trinity is unmistakable

What is unmistakable:

One God.
Three persons.
Seven Spirits.

All simultaneously true.

 

[DamianWarS]

It is my understanding that we are not allowed to discuss this matter unless we agree with the administrators' point of view.

Let's keep it to Nicene Christianity then. I'm not trying to prompt some trinity debate I'm just looking at how the trinity is scripturally revealed.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Think about this, dwell on this for a while. If it was named (explicitly) , which it isn't, it would have been clear and obvious just like other things named explicitly, like TORAH, like Have Only One God, no idolatry, etc etc etc
There would not be the debates/ differences all through the centuries since it was adopted (sometime after the 2nd or 3rd century, or later, I think).

Who can measure a spirit, even a human spirit, much less YAHWEH'S !

Are you saying it's explicitly taught?

 

[dreadnought]

Let's keep it to Nicene Christianity then. I'm not trying to prompt some trinity debate I'm just looking at how the trinity is scripturally revealed.

There are lots of references to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the Bible. I believe in a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but I think I would define the three differently than people who call themselves Trinitarians.

 

[HTacianas]

There are lots of verses that point to the trinity and although the word itself doesn't appear in scripture is it still thought of as an explicit doctrine or is the the concept of the trinity more of an implicit doctrine?

It is not mentioned in scripture. It is a Tradition taught by the Church that has its origins from the beginning.

But when we say "Trinity", remember that it is only a term used to describe the nature of God.

 

[Albion]

Are you saying it's explicitly taught?

I think I would have to know what you mean by explicit in this particular case.

 

[Albion]

It is not mentioned in scripture. It is a Tradition taught by the Church that has its origins from the beginning.

But when we say "Trinity", remember that it is only a term used to describe the nature of God.

No, its not a tradition. Even the Nicene Creed credits Scripture (while making no mention of Tradition).

 

[thesunisout]

There are lots of verses that point to the trinity and although the word itself doesn't appear in scripture is it still thought of as an explicit doctrine or is the the concept of the trinity more of an implicit doctrine?

It is explicitly taught:

1 John 5:7

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Matthew 28:19

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

 

[HTacianas]

No, its not a tradition. Even the Nicene Creed credits Scripture (while making no mention of Tradition).

The Nicene Creed is the codification of Tradition.

 

[Albion]

It is explicitly taught:

1 John 5:7

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Matthew 28:19

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

Those two verses, in the absence of others that we should consult, would suggest--as many people have suggested--that there are three gods (or a series of other variations on that theme).

That wouldn't be the Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

 

[Albion]

The Nicene Creed is the codification of Tradition.

No, it is the product of a council.

Your church considers everything to be tradition, I realize, but as the term is normally used, its not tradition.

 

[HTacianas]

It is explicitly taught:

1 John 5:7

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Matthew 28:19

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

I would urge that you use caution in quoting either 1 John 5:7 or Matthew 28:19. They are known emendations that do not appear in the originals.