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is the thing that most 15 year olds do wrong??
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you sound like you're deep into this stuff, dude. And you might not be able to control yourself simply looking at pics "with bottoms on". It might lead you to go even further. So that's up to you to decide. If you can handle it or not.
I wanted to point it out to you. From your other post' it seems you're looking at this solely as a "right vs. wrong" "is it okay to do it?" angle. Sure there's nothing wrong with that but don't just look at it solely as right/wrong or is it okay to do it. Try and understand the benefits to NOT doing it as well. Not just right v. wrong but look at the big picture
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HarborOrange
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Well, I'll tell you this. I used to really struggle with this, about 2 years ago... It was tearing me apart. I knew it was wrong, I mean, you're lusting when you do this, no matter what, which is a sin no matter how you look at it... Go with the hands-off approach, that's what I did. Like, basically, don't even touch "down there" unless you're using the restroom, it'll help you quite. I mean, it's not entirely defined as wrong, as you are simply speeding up a bodily function... However, the thoughts that accompany it are wrong, and that is why you should quite.
However, the most important thing here is that you do not get involved with pornography. I have a friend who is addicted to it, he eventually lost his moral boundaries in regards to his virginity, and now he has lost his virginity multiple times... And it's all premarital. Porn is an awful thing, do not even dabble in it, as it will most likely pull you in. Luckily, when I had my issues, I never was able to look at pornography, the thought of it grossed me out... But, I know it causes an immense amount of damage, so stay out of porn at all costs. Even if you struggle with Masturbation, do not enter the realm of porn, as that will create an even greater struggle.
Nonetheless, masturbation is a sin, and you should quit. I do realize that it will be hard, as I've been through it myself. But, it's worth it to quit, you'll be closer to G-d.
However, the most important thing here is that you do not get involved with pornography. I have a friend who is addicted to it, he eventually lost his moral boundaries in regards to his virginity, and now he has lost his virginity multiple times... And it's all premarital. Porn is an awful thing, do not even dabble in it, as it will most likely pull you in. Luckily, when I had my issues, I never was able to look at pornography, the thought of it grossed me out... But, I know it causes an immense amount of damage, so stay out of porn at all costs. Even if you struggle with Masturbation, do not enter the realm of porn, as that will create an even greater struggle.
Nonetheless, masturbation is a sin, and you should quit. I do realize that it will be hard, as I've been through it myself. But, it's worth it to quit, you'll be closer to G-d.
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How are things now? Are you making attempts to stop? If so how are they going? Keep us updated. Your thread my be helpful to someone someday
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In my honest opinion, the act of masturbation isn't wrong. But it is impossible to touch without thinking lustful thoughts. Even if it pops up for an instant, God says that we have committed adultry. And porn is bad. The bible does talk about porn. I'm still trying to get over my addiction to it, and its been hard, but you can do it! Anything is possible through Christ who gives us strength!
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The way I see it (and I agree with the post at the top of the page), it isn't the act itself that's wrong, but the thoughts and temptations that accompany it. Lust=adultery. Pornography=adultery, and a dangerous net, indeed. I don't agree that it's entirely impossible to touch without lusting, but the chance is there, for most.
But from what I've read, and what it seems you've accomplished, getting rid of an addiction to pornography is a very large step in the right direction; and, if you've conquered that particular temptation, chances are you can easily stop masturbating if you put your mind to it.
I don't think the Bible ever specifically mentions masturbation, but the principles can be applied...
Incidentally... Yeah, you may slip up. But it's still easy to get back on track, thinking of, "whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure [key word for this particular situation]..." (Phil. 4:8). With God, all things are possible.
But from what I've read, and what it seems you've accomplished, getting rid of an addiction to pornography is a very large step in the right direction; and, if you've conquered that particular temptation, chances are you can easily stop masturbating if you put your mind to it.
I don't think the Bible ever specifically mentions masturbation, but the principles can be applied...
Incidentally... Yeah, you may slip up. But it's still easy to get back on track, thinking of, "whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure [key word for this particular situation]..." (Phil. 4:8). With God, all things are possible.
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Fatally.Yours
I may be bad, but I'm perfectly good at it.
Why I could never be a Christian=this thread.
OP, yes, everybody does it. EVERYBODY. If they say they don't, be safe in the knowledge that they are lying, and that's a sin.
OP, yes, everybody does it. EVERYBODY. If they say they don't, be safe in the knowledge that they are lying, and that's a sin.
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Short story is that masturbation itself is a natural process, but to do it, we have to lust over someone we are not married to, thus adultery, which is a sin. On the subject of pron, I can't stand the stuff, I find it disgusting and degrading, and yes it is wrong to base don the whole lust/adultery concept I mentioned earlier.
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HarborOrange
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^I agree.
Pornography is definitely something to steer clear of, whether you find it attractive or not. I do not find it pleasing myself, and don't know how anyone could because it just feels so wrong to me... But I have known people who enjoy it so heavily that they became addicted, and to this day they can't go without porn... It's really sad.
So just stay away from it.
Pornography is definitely something to steer clear of, whether you find it attractive or not. I do not find it pleasing myself, and don't know how anyone could because it just feels so wrong to me... But I have known people who enjoy it so heavily that they became addicted, and to this day they can't go without porn... It's really sad.
So just stay away from it.
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You call it an addiction but no medical institution in the world recognizes the diagnosis of "porn addiction". Porn has no physically addictive properties. Do not scaremonger.
So your god convicts people of thought crime?
Do you see no problem with that?
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