Is The T.V. Show Charmed Satanic?

[OntheHorizon]

I enjoy charmed. But my mom, who is a devout Christian, says that it is Satanic. I am a Christian as well, and I don't want to watch anything that is Satanic.

Something displaying something that represents satan to you doesn't make the show SATANIC... it just means you could make the moral decision to not watch it. It doesn't mean there is some nasty hidden power coming out of the TV into your life or your room.

It's no different than watching a show where you know two unmarried people had a child, that may be a sin but that doesn't make the show evil and dangerous and full of evil spiritual power.

 

[child630]

Yes, i see what you are saying. I believe in only one God. The only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ.

 

[OntheHorizon]

But even if that's their belief it still makes them wrong.

We've gotten a little off-track of the original subject, and I hate to derail the thread too much.

But even Muslims believe they are not the ones doing wrong, and that we are the ones who are the infidels. Does that make someone not sinful just because in their mind, they think something is good, when it's actually not?

That's the point I'm trying to make.

Well there is a difference between something being incorrect and something being morally wrong, evil or malicious.

You probably have a few ideas about God that aren't true because you're not perfect... those falsehoods aren't immoral problems in your life. You're just incorrect, just like those Muslims who aren't trying to do anything evil. Their misconceptions about God aren't any different than your own.

Being incorrect doesn't make you morally wrong, learning the truth is part of life... it's not something only the BAD people have to do or that BAD people aren't allowed to chance to do.

 

[child630]

There is no mother nature, "goddess" or the "earth". There earth is a created thing by God. There is no goddess, there is only God. Who is the only God. So worshipping something other than God is a sin.

as well

 

[OntheHorizon]

Yes, i see what you are saying. I believe in only one God. The only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ.

and you have to remember what that information caused Christ to do... it caused him to accept, love, reach and embrace humanity in all it's failures. it did not cause him to reject, separate, divide and define like it does us most of the time when we look at Muslims and say "They are wrong and our way is the only way, our way the truth and they are false" and separate ourselves from them.

When Jesus responded to these falsehoods it caused him love and embrace, not separate and divide.

 

[OntheHorizon]

When you think of a belief system and how it's wrong, if that's the only thing that comes to mind then you are acting immaturely and simplistically... Jesus did more than consider EVERYONE wrong, it caused him to reach and embrace and love ALL those people. Them being wrong is not the point.

 

[child630]

Well there is a difference between something being incorrect and something being morally wrong, evil or malicious.

You probably have a few ideas about God that aren't true because you're not perfect... those falsehoods aren't immoral problems in your life. You're just incorrect, just like those Muslims who aren't trying to do anything evil. Their misconceptions about God aren't any different than your own.

Being incorrect doesn't make you morally wrong, learning the truth is part of life... it's not something only the BAD people have to do.

That all sounds well and good, but if we don't belong to Jesus, no matter how ignorant we are, we are evil. That's what sin is. No, matter how righteous we seem on the outside, we would belong to satan, which would make us evil or wicked. That's how God would see us. Why do think God forsake Jesus on the cross when he became sin for us? Because God can not look upon wickedness or sin. Jesus was not a wicked person, but he became sin for us. Without him, we are bad people.

 

[OntheHorizon]

When we advocate for a person's different belief system and say "well that's what they believe" we may not be advocating for them being right but we are advocating for them being innocent, just, reasonable, fair, sincere, good in doing so... and those things are important to.

Our beliefs aren't BETTER than theirs, they just happen to be true because you got lucky enough to learn it and you don't have yourself to credit for it and them being "wrong" is never the only thing that needs to be said.

 

[OntheHorizon]

That all sounds well and good, but if we don't belong to Jesus, no matter how ignorant we are, we are evil. That's what sin is. No, matter how righteous we seem on the outside, we would belong to satan, which would make us evil or wicked.

That's not true... the Samaritan didn't belong to Jesus and Jesus said he was the Good Samaritan and even used the Samaritan to display goodness.

Jesus didn't consider you simply EVIL before you got saved, Jesus didn't consider the human race simply EVIL before he came. There was good in it and he loved it and cherished long before, it wasn't this useless, evil, no good thing... or Jesus never would have wanted to keep it.

Lots of people of different beliefs believe the same things that we do and do the same things that we do... if those things testify for our goodness then it does for them as well. Jesus had nothing but good things to say about the Centurion with great faith.

 

[OntheHorizon]

The bible says Jesus loved us so much that he... before we ever new him. So obviously he doesn't simply see us as wicked and evil, when he looked at us he smiled, he felt love and desire for us... for him to simply see us and wicked as evil doesn't make sense.

 

[fuji]

If Charmed makes people practice witchcraft, then does Sesame Street make people believe in talking birds?

Wait....

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[child630]

That's not true... the Samaritan didn't belong to Jesus and Jesus said he was the Good Samaritan.

Jesus didn't consider you simply EVIL before you got saved, Jesus didn't consider the human race simply EVIL before he came. There was good in it and he loved it and cherished long before, it wasn't this useless, evil, no good thing... or Jesus never would have wanted to keep it.

Lots of people of different beliefs believe the same things that we do and do the same things that we do... if those things testify for our goodness then it does for them as well. Jesus had nothing but good things to say about the Centurion with great faith.

OK. Maybe I got it wrong. I was a wicked person. Even though I was nice on the outside.

 

[child630]

The bible says Jesus loved us so much that he... before we ever new him. So obviously he doesn't simply see us as wicked and evil, when he looked at us he smiled, he felt love and desire for us... for him to simply see us and wicked as evil doesn't make sense.

Maybe you are right. I was just a wicked, like I said before.

 

[OntheHorizon]

OK. Maybe I got it wrong. I was a wicked person. Even though I was nice on the outside.

I think some incompetent selfish preacher made an all out assault on your self esteem because he knew no other way to control you. You weren't wicked, you made mistakes. Jesus wanted you more than his own life and he died so that he could spend the ages of eternity showing you how much he loved you, that's what Paul told the Ephesians.

You were never the omnipotent omniscient one, you weren't the devil, you never knew what was going on before Jesus... you weren't wicked.

 

[Spunkn]

Well there is a difference between something being incorrect and something being morally wrong, evil or malicious.

You probably have a few ideas about God that aren't true because you're not perfect... those falsehoods aren't immoral problems in your life. You're just incorrect, just like those Muslims who aren't trying to do anything evil. Their misconceptions about God aren't any different than your own.

Being incorrect doesn't make you morally wrong, learning the truth is part of life... it's not something only the BAD people have to do or that BAD people aren't allowed to chance to do.

If you don't believe in God, and choose to go against Him, then that is sin whether or not you're just "incorrect" or being "immoral" or whatever. Because morals are created by God to begin with.

I never said anything about treating them badly, or deliberately bad mouthing them. I'm just saying, if you're not with God, you're against Him. That's not my standard, that's God's.

I can be incorrect in some of my views about God, or my beliefs, but I still hold the only one that matters. That Christ died for me, and to be saved I had to accept Him.

Anyway, I didn't mean to derail the thread. I'm not posting about this any longer.

 

[OntheHorizon]

Spunkn

If you don't believe in God, and choose to go against Him

That's not possible, you can't choose to act on what you know nothing about. A person who doesn't believe God exists can't reject him and didn't reject him.

and you missed my point... there is a difference between being incorrect and being morally wrong because such is true for you too.

The Good Samaritan wasn't for Jesus but Jesus used him to teached goodness itself, Jesus hardly felt like that man was against him. Jesus actually called the man good.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

In the beginning God created man. Then man started to differ on christian views and debated. Then man created forums and everyone fought like crazy. Then God looked down at these men and face palmed.

 

[child630]

In the beginning God created man. Then man started to differ on christian views and debated. Then man created forums and everyone fought like crazy. Then God looked down at these men and face palmed.

This is true.

 

[OntheHorizon]

In the beginning God created man. Then man started to differ on christian views and debated. Then man created forums and everyone fought like crazy. Then God looked down at these men and face palmed.

well can he blame them? Has any of us ever seen him or heard him speak and when he did come he insisted on speaking in parables but he said he'd give a spirit to enable us to spiritually discern and now we have to figure out who has the right and wrong spirit. There is only one person who knows everything and can do anything and that is God, he is the only one who has no excuse for being confused and sometimes our very lives are at stake?

I think arguments are inevitable.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

I think arguments are inevitable.

Not for me. I'm perfect! Seriously though you are right.