Is the rapture?

[Douggg]

Being made new creations in Christ, it is irrelevant whether Jew or Gentile to them saved in Christ, because the new man is higher than the old man.

Redemption in Christianity is not a restoration to the garden of eden creation of man. But an entirely new higher plane of existence, higher than the angels. Which hereto has not be fully realized pending the redemption of the body in the resurrection/rapture. Redemption from that which is current, and from that which is past, changed to that which is eternal.

Which we will see Jesus as He is - the Lord God Almighty - not Jesus the Jew. Which at that time we will not be fused to the flesh as the old man, currently pertaining to each of us is.

Let us pray that God holds us by our hand, as we endure to the end the tribulations of this life, to the day of our glorious redemption, which it will be joy everlasting.

Whether being a Jew or a replacement Jew, that argument is a wallowing in the mud of the old man. Let it go, and be a new creation in Christ, looking for and awaiting our redemption. Even so, Come Lord Jesus!

 

[Truth7t7]

Being made new creations in Christ, it is irrelevant whether Jew or Gentile to them saved in Christ, because the new man is higher than the old man.

Redemption in Christianity is not a restoration to the garden of eden creation of man. But an entirely new higher plane of existence, higher than the angels. Which hereto has not be fully realized pending the redemption of the body in the resurrection/rapture. Redemption from that which is current, and from that which is past, changed to that which is eternal.

Which we will see Jesus as He is - the Lord God Almighty - not Jesus the Jew. Which at that time we will not be fused to the flesh as the old man, currently pertaining to each of us is.

Let us pray that God holds us by our hand, as we endure to the end the tribulations of this life, to the day of our glorious redemption, which it will be joy everlasting.

Whether being a Jew or a replacement Jew, that argument is a wallowing in the mud of the old man. Let it go, and be a new creation in Christ, looking for and awaiting our redemption. Even so, Come Lord Jesus!

Sounds good Douggg, however many falsely teach of two people in Gods eyes "False Teaching" a christian has a duty to expose Christian Zionism, for what it is.

 

[jgr]

You are avoiding what the scriptures explicitly say. The promise is not to all of Abraham's children, but to a well defined subset of his children, those who are also descended from Israel. But not even to all of them, but only to the sons of Israel that partake of Abraham's faith. We are explicitly told that all the rebels will be purged from their midst, and that all those that remain will repent with bitter weeping, so that every one written among the living "will be called holy."

The Seed to whom the promises were made is Christ.
Galatians 3
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

The children of the promise i.e. those who are Christ's; are counted for, and also are, the seed.
Romans 9
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Galatians 3
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The seed is "ethnicless".
Galatians 3
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, ... for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

The children of the promise, aka the seed, are the Church.
Galatians 4
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

 

[Douggg]

however many falsely teach of two people in Gods eyes "False Teaching" a christian has a duty to expose Christian Zionism, for what it is.

This is what I am talking about; you are wallowing in the mud of the old man. Let it go.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is what I am talking about; you are wallowing in the mud of the old man. Let it go.

I disagree douggg, its a christians duty to pull the sheep's clothing off the wolf.
If that's your ministry to let it go so be it.

Jude 1:1-25