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I disagree obviously .***Not the pre-Trib rapture theory. Read previous posts about why that theory cannot be true. It is only emphasized in the United States, nowhere else.
I wrote this a long time ago:
The Pre-Trib Rapture theory was based on a dream by a teenager in 1830 Most who believe it say the rapture will occur at Revelation 4 because John said he was caught up. But the 1 Corinthians 15 mentions the last trump, Also there are two kinds of tribulation: one is what is happening in Muslim countries and happened in Stalin's, Genghis Kahn's and Mao's, and Hitler's times. Minor tribulation is happening in the lives of those with severe health, financial, or/and family problems. The second kind of tribulation is the coming Great Tribulation. Chaos in the whole wide World can happen with even a small amount of horrible happenings. Even 2, 9/11 and Katrina, paralyzed the USA in different ways; the former had all airplanes grounded etc. But what would nuclear bombs do as EMTs or in small brief cases dirty bombs planted in various cities. What about chemical and biological warfare in many places? What about many "natural disasters" all happening at one time? But true Christians are not spared from tribulation, but they are spared from God's Wrath.
And pre-Trib, mid-Trib, and post-Trib theories are just theories. Internationally, the pre Trib rapture theory has not caught on. When has the majority even in one country been right and why should the USA be spared from judgment? The abortion and the homosexual problems are bad enough and so the USA deserves the worse judgment before God’s Wrath. I just encourage others that we should just be living for God instead of self (having the right faith in the Full Gospel) so that we are ready for death or the rapture. And there is no evidence that the rapture results in all true Christians being in Heaven for a thousand years. I believe that when Jesus Christ returns, the Earth being put on fire will happen after the rapture of the righteous dead and alive. And the Earth will be recreated into paradise with the New Jerusalem coming down to where Jerusalem is now. What a Day that will be. Did you hear about panmillenialism? It will all pan-out in the end. Scripture says that we should avoid vain disputes and Jesus Christ said the World will know who are His disciples by their unselfish love for one another. Where are the churches that manifest the Fruit of the Spirit, Philippians 2:1-5, and Ephesians 4:11-16? The condition of most current Christian churches' problems especially of arrogance and wrong judging of others is actually worse than the horrible politics and media of lying and hate. Christians should at least be living the Golden Rule and being good examples to the politicians and liberal media reporters/commentators.
And what is the Full Gospel that we should be sharing?
Hi, Southernscotty. It is not just about His bride being tortured and abused, as this has happened throughout history to the church. It is about who is doling out the torment and abuse! The tribulation is largely about God's wrath being poured out... He is the one that is punishing the unbelieving world.
Absolutely not true, sorry. Very few Christians worldwide believe in the rapture.
I wrote this a long time ago:
The Pre-Trib Rapture theory was based on a dream by a teenager in 1830
Can you be more specific? There was a lot talked about in that quote. Specify what you'd like me to explain and provide verses for and I'll go into more detail.???
Where does all of that come from?
Paul wrote about the mystery of the pre-trib removal of the Church. Prior to Paul's writings regarding the removal of the Church (Rapture) was never taught in the OT.No, she did not write about a pre-trib rapture. She wrote about a post-trib rapture. Paul wrote a letter to speak against the idea of a pre-trib rapture so that's when the pre-trib started.
Paul wrote about the mystery of the pre-trib removal of the Church.
These tribulation saints will resurrect at The Second Coming of Christ (not to be confused with the Rapture).
Also present (who come with Christ) will be the OT saints, the Glorified Church saints. The tribulation saints don't come back with Christ , but are resurrected at that time.
Only the surviving believers of Christ will be able to marry and reproduce children who will populate the earth during that 1,000 years.
We will have to agree to disagree.He wrote against such an idea.
Paul wrote the rapture happens after the second coming.
Incorrect. All the dead saints resurrect at the same time and return with Christ just prior to the living saints being changed into immortals and then raptured up to meet with Christ and his resurrected saints.
All believers at the time will be immortals and it is said that no one "in the resurrection" marry so this is false.
We will have to agree to disagree.
Paul absolutely did not write against, but rather for the pre-trib doctrine .
Only believers enter the 1,000 year reign.
You are going out of order with the events.No, unbelieving nations will be reigned over by believers:
Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Then after the 1000 years these same unbelieving nations will follow Satan again:
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
You are going out of order with the events.
I think the Bible does not teach a rapture.
I think the Bible does not teach a rapture. For example, in the first century, the concept of meeting a returning king “in the air” meant to leave the city walls to greet the king in the open air outside the walls.
Really? Which greek word from that verse means “rapture@?1Th 4:17 is the only scripture that uses the word rapture (the Greek word for rapture because it was written in Greek)
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