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Is the Mark of the Beast forgivable? (Moved from Christian apolegetics)

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Is the Mark of the Beast forgivable, and if not, does that make the mark the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit? Food for thought! :angel:
 

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"If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." Revelation 14:9-11


Receives and worships, kinda states you have to do two things not just the receive the mark bit but also worship
Dont take my word for it I am not that sure yet
 
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"If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." Revelation 14:9-11


Receives and worships, kinda states you have to do two things not just the receive the mark bit but also worship
Dont take my word for it I am not that sure yet

God doesn't really care about what one has done in the past or about ink.
His concern is who your spirit is dedicated to.
 
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Is the Mark of the Beast forgivable, and if not, does that make the mark the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit? Food for thought! :angel:
They are two different things. I strongly recommend that nobody here accepts any mark on or chip implant for their right hand or forehead. You may pay for eternity.
 
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Is the Mark of the Beast forgivable, and if not, does that make the mark the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit? Food for thought! :angel:

The mark of the beast is to be unloving to others which is forgiveable if you turn from being unloving to being loving,(Ezekiel 18) but if you do not repent you shall perish. Luke 13:3
 
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Is the Mark of the Beast forgivable, and if not, does that make the mark the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit? Food for thought! :angel:

Actually, Rev is very clear on this. The mark of the beast will be given during the tribulation. Anyone who carries that mark is forever denied the salvation of Jesus. The following passages support my opinion.

Rev 16:2 The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly and painful sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.

Rev 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

Rev 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."

Rev 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
 
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You haven't been warned?

I don't believe you will be able to get this "mark" unknowingly. I believe that Rev. clearly states that you will have to have the mark and to get it, you will have to KNOWINGLY agree to have it placed on you.

Again:

Rev 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."

Rev 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
 
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I don't believe you will be able to get this "mark" unknowingly. I believe that Rev. clearly states that you will have to have the mark and to get it, you will have to KNOWINGLY agree to have it placed on you.

Again:

Rev 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."

Rev 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
It is a spiritual mark, not a physical one.
 
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This "mark of the beast" is not literally mark that will be put or seal in a man's body but spiritual mark.

Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as
symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. De. 11:18

People now are not aware that mark of the beast are already placed into people.
 
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If I carved 666 into my forehead or my right hand this would surely be forgiven. During the Tribulation period though when the antichrist is forcing men and women to recieve the mark in submission to him at the risk of their own life, no you take that one you're forever gone.
 
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To know the mark you have know the beast.

As Paul said,

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. (2Th. 2:9-12)

That's why people now are being deceived, they believe what they believed and not searching the truth.
 
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Everyone is focusing on a physical mark but the bible already says that man looks at the outward appearance but God looks at the heart. Is God going to start looking at a physical mark on your skin to identify you as not his child now?

The major point that so many people are missing is that accepting the mark of the beast goes hand in hand with worshiping the beast. The saints who do not take the mark of the beast, keep the commandments of God and have the faith in Jesus. If the beast were to force 666 in your hand does that change your relationship with God? Well that is what the devil wants you to believe. The devil is smart. If we look at the physical he will deceive us with the physical. He will have you busy focusing on avoiding a physical mark while you are missing God's spiritual mark. The beast is interested in worship not painting over the nation's skin. Even if the latter has some truth to it, the former is most important. Worship is the deciding factor in the last days. Who you are obedient to is who you worship. Follow God, fear God, obey God.
 
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