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Whine whine whine.I never whine about Pluto; just the science behind it.
As many as you like, but I don't see the point of it. Scientific theories are constantly being modified or abandoned entirely as more evidence becomes available. That's how science works.
No thats completly wrong.
Evolution happens, thats a fact. Do you seriously say that thats not true? That populations dont change over time?
Nope. It's not a fact, if based on a theory. Or a lot of theory. Take out the framework, the evolutionary model that scientists assume is basically correct and all you have are a lot of observations that all add up to..what? What they add up to depends on what model of origins one places the observations into.
No, it's a fact that life on Earth has changed and diversified over time. There are species alive on the Earth that haven't always been here and species that were here once and are now extinct. The theory of evolution is an attempt to explain that fact.Nope. It's not a fact, if based on a theory. Or a lot of theory. Take out the framework, the evolutionary model that scientists assume is basically correct and all you have are a lot of observations that all add up to..what? What they add up to depends on what model of origins one places the observations into.
Then they didn't know what they were talking about, because scientific theories are NEVER PROVEN.So you are arguing against what I said by saying the same thing with different words. Weird.
I still have had people bring up the gill slit theory to try to prove evolution, BTW.
No, I say that's not evolution. That's adaptation.No thats completly wrong.
Evolution happens, thats a fact. Do you seriously say that thats not true? That populations dont change over time?
Of course things change. That's doesn't show us that evolution as taught today is correct. Why should I believe one type or animal can transition into another type? I've never observed it happening. And why would I believe it started from a single cell? Why not believe what we observe?No, it's a fact that life on Earth has changed and diversified over time. There are species alive on the Earth that haven't always been here and species that were here once and are now extinct. The theory of evolution is an attempt to explain that fact.
So we get mocked for belief in what can't be proven when evolution supposes many things that can't be proven?Then they didn't know what they were talking about, because scientific theories are NEVER PROVEN.
Really, it's a simple concept, based on the difference between deductive and inductive logic.
Neither of those events have ever happened. For example, a feline--given suitable selection pressure over a long time--might eventually come to resemble a dog-like creature, but it would never become a canine. Of course way back in time (I don't know off the top of my head--you could look it up) the feline and the canine had a common ancestor. But the feline will never cross back to being a canine, no matter how dog-like it becomes.No, I say that's not evolution. That's adaptation.
You can take the same information and put it into a different model and not conclude that everything started with a single cell and evolved into the variety we have now. In fact, there's always been vast variety from the start. I can observe animals adapting to their environment changes. I cannot observe a bird gradually transitioning to a dinosaur. Or a feline transitioning to a canine.
There are more alternatives than "prove" and "suppose." The conclusion of a deductive logical or mathematical discourse is said to be "proven." Given true premises and correct logic the conclusion is rock-solid. Science, on the other hand, proceeds by inductive logic. An hypothesis is formed and evidence collected and if the evidence sustains the hypothesis is said to be "confirmed." But it is not "proven" because at any time new evidence may turn up which falsifies the hypothesis. If an hypothesis is repeatedly confirmed it becomes a theory, but still it is not "proven" because again, at any time, new evidence may falsify it. So the theory of evolution is accepted, even if you think there is not enough evidence to "prove" it, but because so far no evidence has been discovered which would falsify it.So we get mocked for belief in what can't be proven when evolution supposes many things that can't be proven?
Talk of " ploy" and various other false and / or nvidious
remarks don't indicate you've an interest in honest talk,
no more than does your mini- gish, all of which you
lifted from some creationist site, none of which you've
the background to understand.
Hard core creationist beliefs such as those expressed are
never held by educated people, no more than they think
astrology is valid.
I have a friend from a poor farm family in SE Asia
who grew up not even knowing the earth is round, like
an orange, and just believing what the catholic church
taught.
She got a lucky break though and found herself in the
USA. Smart and ambitious, speaks three languages,
engineering degree, drives a Lexus.
Soaks up education like a sponge, loves it.
I knew her in college. I was so struck by something
she said, that I told her doesn't make sense, after a bit
she said, 'I see, that's just a superstition, I don't believe it now".
Very different from creationist mentality.
But never mind, I expect it's way too late for you
to unlearn the garbage you've soaked in.
I wish you well.
I understand how it's supposed to work.
Back up your rhetoric- show me the transitional fossil evidence you claim exists, from single cell life to sexually reproducing multi-trillion celled life.
There is none.
No.Oh I remember fine. It's a beaver with a bill. Half bird, half mammal, lol! Right!
Tell that to General Arthur Wellesley.But those days of special miracles are now over. They ended in AD 96 with the completion of the Scriptures.
Again?
What mentality created this?Again?
Ok. One more tome. Once upon a time, primitive people made up imaginative creatures by mentally stitching parts of different animals together
What mentality created this?
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