• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • Christian Forums is looking to bring on new moderators to the CF Staff Team! If you have been an active member of CF for at least three months with 200 posts during that time, you're eligible to apply! This is a great way to give back to CF and keep the forums running smoothly! If you're interested, you can submit your application here!

Is the existence of Christianity better for this world

stevevw

inquisitive
Nov 4, 2013
15,456
1,624
Brisbane Qld Australia
✟301,854.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
For my example of why Chritianity is good is . JUST take a look at the oppression in the rest of the world for clues.
Yes and in fact studies done even show that religion perse is better for you with better outcomes in health and wellbeing and child rearing. Its like Pascals wager. Your better off living that way just in case as the teachings are good for people and society. Its certainly worth a try and won't hurt.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reneep
Upvote 0

Reneep

Active Member
Jan 21, 2025
160
17
65
Springfield
✟6,970.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
Yes and in fact studies done even show that religion perse is better for you with better outcomes in health and wellbeing and child rearing. Its like Pascals wager. Your better off living that way just in case as the teachings are good for people and society. Its certainly worth a try and won't hurt.
Well "religion" is what it is and is somewhat helpful, I think mostly for giving a soul hope for a good outcome of your life.

But what is most interesting, had to do with a study and I dont have it memorized, and I am not sure I can even describe it's findings correctly. But I will try.

So on one of the studies (Barna?) about who what % of americans today has a " Biblical world view" and comparing churches/ the church, and how often they read the Word, just breaking the nation down by biblical peices and finding statistics . Like 60% +of Americans think they should "go to heaven" and only abt 20-30% believed that they " believed in God " as they defined it ( generic spaghetti's monsters, Christ spirits , and new age " cosmic energy" probably included , and throw in all other religions undoubtly). So when it came to the marriage part . They started to see something interesting!
I hope I can discribe this part correctly, I was so excited about what they were finding, and all kinds of verses were coming into my head that I will do my best to break it down , but I could not memorize it for others sake.
So do you know the statistics which say that " the Church has the same divorce rate as the world ". Well now even the worldly studies show that the same people keep marrying and divorcing so that about 25% of Americans are marrying and divorcing many times bring statistics up to 50/50 chance of having a ( good, by their own standards, so good enough to not divorce ) marriage.

Well it turns out the church even has more than the worldly of these " justified sinners " justified in their divorces" , "MY GOD WANTS ME TO BE HAPPY! CREW. " These may or may not go to church regularly but seldom do they really have biblical world veiw. So these (?20 to 30 %? ) have horrid marriages, do not pray together, do not have a biblical worldview veiw and do divorce many times. But say they are happy..
So that group is the pharisees like group that are not in relationship with the Lord and with the Holy Spirit. They are of the 50% unwise virgins crew. But the more than % 50 had great marriages, they pray together, stay together , read the word together and in him are very happy and contented. So the " religious " were not really content though they usually say they are , but dig and they are not, they were not happy, and. their divorces showed it.

But those in real relationships with each other, with their churches, and with Jesus and with the Word and with the Holy Spirit were truly content with their lives. Have more sex etc.
And the worldly don't really count the ones shacking up as marriages ( but God does.) And if they add those to the worldly marriages. They divorce / commit adultery at a rate nearly 100 %.

So THOSE IN A relationship with The Lord our creator and with the body of Christ, and with his Word, AND WITH HIS VALUES with the Spirit, WITH lights fully on , his truth fully embraced, gratitude fully realized , was where real hope lives. But are the rest pharisees like ? Just enough God , and just enough Word to justify themselves ?
IT IS WHY AMERICA WAS ONCE BLESSED, BECAUSE IF ONE PRAYING CAN PUT A THOUSAND TO FLIGHT, THEN TWO CAN PUT TEN THOUSAND, THEN HOW MANY (enemies of their soul ) CAN THE UNIFIED BODY OF CHRIST AND IN THE HOLY SPIRIT PUT TO FLIGHT ?

I didn't have that marriage , I had that other one up there ^^^ but I didn't know that .... 8(

Yep GOALS,
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Reneep

Active Member
Jan 21, 2025
160
17
65
Springfield
✟6,970.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
Well he needs to speak for himself. He will obiviously never have something he is incapable of believing in or in anyway pursueing. To date anyway.

So his soul not be healed and he will go from adultry to adultery or fornication to fornication killing even his ability to feel loved much less to ever learn to give pure pure Agape love. You know that stuff Jesus shared with mankind. Pure love.. not just care, empathy or pity but a love that does things, heals things , touches the soul..
 
Upvote 0

stevevw

inquisitive
Nov 4, 2013
15,456
1,624
Brisbane Qld Australia
✟301,854.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Well "religion" is what it is and is somewhat helpful, I think mostly for giving a soul hope for a good outcome of your life.

But what is most interesting, had to do with a study and I dont have it memorized, and I am not sure I can even describe it's findings correctly. But I will try.

So on one of the studies (Barna?) about who what % of americans today has a " Biblical world view" and comparing churches/ the church, and how often they read the Word, just breaking the nation down by biblical peices and finding statistics . Like 60% +of Americans think they should "go to heaven" and only abt 20-30% believed that they " believed in God " as they defined it ( generic spaghetti's monsters, Christ spirits , and new age " cosmic energy" probably included , and throw in all other religions undoubtly). So when it came to the marriage part . They started to see something interesting!
I hope I can discribe this part correctly, I was so excited about what they were finding, and all kinds of verses were coming into my head that I will do my best to break it down , but I could not memorize it for others sake.
So do you know the statistics which say that " the Church has the same divorce rate as the world ". Well now even the worldly studies show that the same people keep marrying and divorcing so that about 25% of Americans are marrying and divorcing many times bring statistics up to 50/50 chance of having a ( good, by their own standards, so good enough to not divorce ) marriage.

Well it turns out the church even has more than the worldly of these " justified sinners " justified in their divorces" , "MY GOD WANTS ME TO BE HAPPY! CREW. " These may or may not go to church regularly but seldom do they really have biblical world veiw. So these (?20 to 30 %? ) have horrid marriages, do not pray together, do not have a biblical worldview veiw and do divorce many times. But say they are happy..
So that group is the pharisees like group that are not in relationship with the Lord and with the Holy Spirit. They are of the 50% unwise virgins crew. But the more than % 50 had great marriages, they pray together, stay together , read the word together and in him are very happy and contented. So the " religious " were not really content though they usually say they are , but dig and they are not, they were not happy, and. their divorces showed it.

But those in real relationships with each other, with their churches, and with Jesus and with the Word and with the Holy Spirit were truly content with their lives. Have more sex etc.
And the worldly don't really count the ones shacking up as marriages ( but God does.) And if they add those to the worldly marriages. They divorce / commit adultery at a rate nearly 100 %.

So THOSE IN A relationship with The Lord our creator and with the body of Christ, and with his Word, AND WITH HIS VALUES with the Spirit, WITH lights fully on , his truth fully embraced, gratitude fully realized , was where real hope lives. But are the rest pharisees like ? Just enough God , and just enough Word to justify themselves ?
IT IS WHY AMERICA WAS ONCE BLESSED, BECAUSE IF ONE PRAYING CAN PUT A THOUSAND TO FLIGHT, THEN TWO CAN PUT TEN THOUSAND, THEN HOW MANY (enemies of their soul ) CAN THE UNIFIED BODY OF CHRIST AND IN THE HOLY SPIRIT PUT TO FLIGHT ?

Yep GOALS
I think theres a couple of factors here. First divorce is one of those ideas that some Christians think is ok because Moses allowed it. So this will be reflected in stats.

The other as you mention is that non Christians are not marrying as much and therefore don't need to get a divorce. But if we could the defacto relationships then there will be a very high breakup level.

But at the end of the day being married and having religious belief and especially Christian belief is better for you, your family and kids and the world.
 
Upvote 0

Reneep

Active Member
Jan 21, 2025
160
17
65
Springfield
✟6,970.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
"I think theres a couple of factors here. First divorce is one of those ideas that some Christians think is ok because Moses allowed it. So this will be reflected in stats."
"The other as you mention is that non Christians are not marrying as much and therefore don't need to get a divorce. But if we could the defacto relationships then there will be a very high breakup level."

First let me say our ideas of marriage is not God's ideasi of "marriage".

but they are still "one flesh" with the opposite sex with all those they sleeped with. So bi-polar disease they are one flesh with a witch or with a high #pocessed persons , or prostitutes. Just think about all of the people having panic attacks = just think about it ..heart palpitations, flushing , racing mind, tension .. they are having sex with the people that they are one with , but those people are have sex with some else. That is the proof of adultry actually. Now fornication is a man can not bond (one flesh )with another man nor can he bond to a picture, or to an animal. This fornication kills the frontal lob where people feel loved and give love. That is why there is so many ED issues with those sins especially porn. And one of the ultimate expressions of fornication is homosexuality due to the ED issues of early porn use addiction.
The good news is Our Creator can fix us when we get broken by our sin and addictions. But it will take time, prayer , praise and washing of the Word a great church that knows how to follow the Holy Spirit. Just all in a very real honest relationship with the Lord. Only Jesus can truly break those sins imprinting and soul ties to others. The good news is He can, If we follow Him to our healings and restorations . But We got to be brave AND BELIEVE HIM THAT THERE IS FREEDOM.


"But at the end of the day being married and having religious belief and especially Christian belief is better for you, your family and kids and the world." especially the children.
Especially the children, man the studies about absentee real fathers are so revealing.. so sad. We in the usa have more diagnosed mental diseases issues and folks on prescriptions. I think it's nearly double the world, but it is high, and that does not count the other legal drugs Americans take just to sleep at night. Those leaving them open to demonic pocession, so that the state of the man is worse than in the begining All i can say we have to be cleansed if we want to see His salvation . REV 3.' Buy from him Gold ' folks or you won't get into the Tabernacles/ Sukkah.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

stevevw

inquisitive
Nov 4, 2013
15,456
1,624
Brisbane Qld Australia
✟301,854.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
The good news is Our Creator can fix us when we get broken by our sin and addictions. But it will take time, prayer , praise and washing of the Word a great church that knows how to follow the Holy Spirit. Just all in a very real honest relationship with the Lord. Only Jesus can truly break those sins imprinting and soul ties to others. The good news is He can, If we follow Him to our healings and restorations . But We got to be brave AND BELIEVE HIM THAT THERE IS FREEDOM.
I like how you said washing of the word. I think this is tru. We have to be washed in Gods word, keep washing in it lol. Its like cognitive therapy. The more we put it in our heads the more we are restored to sanity and Christ.

Its a reminder, it reprientates us, it gives us a way out and strengthens us when we keep washing ourselves in GOds word.
Especially the children, man the studies about absentee real fathers are so revealing.. so sad. We in the usa have more diagnosed mental diseases issues and folks on prescriptions. I think it's nearly double the world, but it is high, and that does not count the other legal drugs Americans take just to sleep at night. Those leaving them open to demonic pocession, so that the state of the man is worse than in the begining All i can say we have to be cleansed if we want to see His salvation . REV 3.' Buy from him Gold ' folks or you won't get into the Tabernacles/ Sukkah.
Its especially sad considering when we see how fathers and sons were in the bible. How great fathers made great sons who went on to make great sons who carried Gods truth.

Even Obama acknowledged the fatherhood issue as one of the biggest problems facing modern society. Modern society has explicitely worked to undermine marriage, the family and parenthood. Making males useless and having no identity, weak and disillusioned. Replacing fathers with mothers, interchanging sex and gender.

Any society where the family is undermined then the society is undermined.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reneep
Upvote 0

Reneep

Active Member
Jan 21, 2025
160
17
65
Springfield
✟6,970.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
I like how you said washing of the word. I think this is tru. We have to be washed in Gods word, keep washing in it lol. Its like cognitive therapy. The more we put it in our heads the more we are restored to sanity and Christ.

Its a reminder, it reprientates us, it gives us a way out and strengthens us when we keep washing ourselves in GOds word.

Its especially sad considering when we see how fathers and sons were in the bible. How great fathers made great sons who went on to make great sons who carried Gods truth.

Even Obama acknowledged the fatherhood issue as one of the biggest problems facing modern society. Modern society has explicitely worked to undermine marriage, the family and parenthood. Making males useless and having no identity, weak and disillusioned. Replacing fathers with mothers, interchanging sex and gender.

Any society where the family is undermined then the society is undermined.
But when people won't or refuse to a knowledge their brokeness they are infact refusing their healing. Choosing Pharmiqea/ pharmaceutics Over truth and Healing. JESUS'S SALVATION , HIS LOVE DOESNT LEAVE US ABANDONED TO THAT USURPING YOU SPEAK OF. IT HAS BEEN AWESOME TALKING TO YOU.
Ps actually praise and worship heals the emotional parts of our brain specificly best because it is a truer relationship than what killed the brain and emotions in The first. That is one reason God keeps likening his Church as a bride. Because it's as true a relationship as a best marriage.. because we are in fact as our brain feels it " married" to Christ. So He asks us to praise Him even mak8ng sacrifices of praise not for his sake but for our sake. Because that connection to him is real love, and a love that heals an emotionally and spiritually dead brain.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0