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It goes against the truth, the Hebrew priest wrote and rewrote all the Old Testament books in Babylon. That's why there are so many errors and exaggeration.Because God is very efficient?
Or this goes against your fallen human sensibilities?
There are actually three eyewitness accounts provided. Mark, Matthew and Luke. In each Jesus tells Peter he will deny Him three times. In all three accounts it is recorded Peter denies Christ three times.OK. Peter denied Jesus three times before the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] crowed the first time . . .
Matt 26:34 Jesus said to him, "Truly I say to you that this very night, before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times."
Matt 26:74 Then he began to curse and swear, "I do not know the man!" And immediately a rooster crowed.
Or was it the second time?
Mark 14:30 And Jesus said to him, "Truly I say to you, that this very night, before a rooster crows twice, you yourself will deny Me three times."
Mark 14:68 But he denied it, saying, "I neither know nor understand what you are talking about." And he went out onto the porch, and a rooster crowed.
Mark 14:71-72
But he began to curse and swear, "I do not know this man you are talking about!" Immediately a rooster crowed a second time. And Peter remembered how Jesus had made the remark to him, "Before a rooster crows twice, you will deny Me three times." And he began to weep.
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Which Hebrew priest? What leads you to believe this priest mislead millions by adding his own exaggerations?It goes against the truth, the Hebrew priest wrote and rewrote all the Old Testament books in Babylon. That's why there are so many errors and exaggeration.
They've convinced you that in a fallen state you are to stupid to think for yourself.
That's why there are so many errors and exaggeration.
I see, so is it murder when we kill in war, execute someone by lethal injection, etc....? Some would say yes, some would say no....depends on how one translates it doesn't it?If you look at in detail the rendering is 'murder.'
Uh . . I was talking about your post.Indeed. CF has their own political cartoon section. Such is not for theology threads. Thanks for the backup.
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That's an important point as neither Luke nor Matthew say "the first time." Mark has the more detailed account and we should thankful, that in the Gospels we have 4 accounts from eyewitnesses. Some see and hear more than others. Does Mark's account contradict in any way Luke and Matthew accounts? No, not at all, but the Mark account (which tradition has was Mark's pen but overseen by Peter) has more detail. . . .
God allowed Satan to fool the whole world, and the church today is full of pedophiles and all manner of snake oil salesman. So the idea that the people who killed Jesus converted a relatively secular history into a miraculous fiction isn't out of the question at all. Analysis of the scripture shows multiple authors within the same page, duplicate stories with conflicting facts etc.Which Hebrew priest? What leads you to believe this priest mislead millions by adding his own exaggerations?
Or is it you discard the supernatural and that God can intervene in His own Creation?
If you can share the eyewitness or even historical testimony of a priest in Babylon doctoring the TaNaKh, please share. Which errors are attributed to this Hebrew priest and what leads you to believe they were errors?
Notice I am addressing your assertion this is a matter of translation. There are no issues with the translations of 'kill' and 'murder.' They are presented as different words in the Hebrew.I see, so is it murder when we kill in war, execute someone by lethal injection, etc....? Some would say yes, some would say no....depends on how one translates it doesn't it?
Yes I know. I was applying some grace to provide an opportunity for you to edit or remove your post. I'm still offering that grace.Uh . . I was talking about your post.
Index of Biblical Contradictions - Answers
1. God is satisfied/unsatisfied with his works
2. God dwells/dwells not in chosen temples
3. God dwells in light/darkness
4. God is seen/unseen and heard/unheard
5. God is tired/never tired and rests/never rests
6. God is/is not omnipresent and omniscent
7. God does/does not know the hearts of men
8. God is/is not all powerful
9. God is changeable/unchangeable
10. God is just/unjust or partial/impartial
11. God is/is not the author of evil
12. God gives freely/witholds his blessings
13. God can/cannot be found by those who seek Him
14. God is warlike/peaceful
15. God is cruel/kind
16. God's anger endures for a long/short time
17. God approves/disapproves of burnt offerings
18. God accepts/forbids human sacrifices
19. God tempts man/doesn't tempt man
20. God send lying spirits/doesn't lie
21. God will/will not destroy man
22. God's attributes are revealed/cannot be discovered
23. God is one/many
24. Robbery commanded/prohibited
25. Lying approved/forbidden
26. Hatred to the Edomite sanctioned/forbidden
27. Killing commanded/forbidden
28. Blood-shedder must/must not die
29. Making of images forbidden/commanded
30. Slavery and oppression forbidden/sanctioned
31. Improvidence enjoyed/condemned
32. Anger approved/disapproved
33. Good works to be seen/not to be seen by men
34. Judging of others forbidden/approved
35. Christ taught non-resistence/taught and practiced physical resistance
36. Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed/Christ avoided Jews for fear of being killed himself
37. Public prayer sanctioned/disapproved
38. Importunity in prayer commended/condemned
39. Wearing of long hair by men sanctioned/condemned
40. Circumcision instituted/condemned
41. Sabbath instituted/repudiated
42. Sabbath instituted because God rested/because God brought Israelites out of Egypt
43. No work to be done on Sabbath/Christ broke this rule
44. Baptism Commanded/not commanded
45. Every animal allowed for food/certain animals prohibited for food
46. Taking of oaths sanctioned/forbidden
47. Marriage approved/disapproved
48. Freedom of divorce permitted/restricted
49. Adultery forbidden/allowed
50. Marriage/cohabitation with sister denounced, but Abraham married his sister and God blessed the marriage
51. A man may/may not marry his brother's widow
52. Hatred to kindred enjoined/condemned
53. Intoxicating beverages recommended/discountenanced
54. Our rulers are God's ministers and should be obeyed/are evil and should be disobeyed
55. Women's rights affirmed/denied
56. Obedience to masters/obedience only to God
57. There is/is not an unpardonable sin
58. Man was created before/after other animals
59. Seed time and harvest never ceased/ceased for seven years
60. God/Pharoah hardened Pharoah's heart
61. All Cattle and horses died/all cattle and horses did not die
62. Moses feared/did not fear Pharoah
63. Plague killed 23000/24000
64. John the Baptist was/was not Elias
65. Father of Mary's husband was Jacob/Heli
66. Father of Salah was Arphaxad/Cainan
67. Thirteen/Fourteen generations from Abraham to David
68. Thirteen/Fourteen generations from Babylonian captivity to Christ
69. Infant Christ was/was not taken to Egypt
70. Christ was/was not tempted in the wilderness
71. Christ preached his first sermon on the mount/on the plain
72. John was/was not in prison when Jesus went to Galilee
73. Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with a staff and sandles/neither staves nor sandles
74. A woman of Canaan/Greek woman sought Jesus
75. Two/one blind men/man besought Jesus
76. Christ was crucified on the third/sixth hour
77. Two thieves/only one thief railed at Christ
78. Satan entered Judas at the supper/after the supper
79. Judas committed suicide by hanging/died another way
80. Potter's field purchased by Judas/by the Chief Priest
81. Only one woman/two women went to the sepulchre
82. Three women/more than three women went to the sepulchre
83. It was early sunrise/sometime after sunrise when they went to the sepulchre
84. Two angels standing/only one angel sitting seen by women
85. Two angels/one angel seen at the sepulchre
86. Christ was to be three days and three nights in the tomb/only two days and two nights
87. Holy Spirit bestowed at/before Pentecost
88. Disciples commanded immediately after resurrection to go into Galilee/tarry at Jerusalem
89. Jesus first appeared to disciples in a room in Jerusalem/on a mountain in Galilee.
90. Christ ascended from Mount Olive/Bethany
91. Paul's attendants heard/did not hear the miraculous voice
92. Abraham departed to go to Canaan/did not know where he was going
93. Abraham had one/two sons.
94. Keturah was Abraham's wife/concubine
95. Abraham begat a son at the age of 100 years by God's providence/he then had six more sons without God's help
96. Jacob/Abraham brought the sepulchre from Hamor
97. God gave Abraham and his sons the promised land/they never received it
98. Goliath/his brother was slain by Elhanan
99. Ahaziah began his reign in the eleventh/twelfth year of Joram
100. Michal had five children/one child
101. David was tempted by the LORD/by satan to number Israel
102. Number of fighting men in Israel was 800,000/1,100,000, number of fighting men in Judah was 500,000/470,000
103. David sinned in numbering Israel/David never sinned except in the matter of Uriah
104. One of David's penalties for sinning was seven years of famine/there were only three years of famine
105. David took 700/7000 horsemen
106. David bought a threshing floor for 50 sheckles of silver/600 shekles of gold
107. David's throne was to endure forever/David's throne was cast down
108. Christ is equal/is not equal with God
109. Jesus was/was not all-powerful
110. The law was/was not superceded by Christian dispensation
111. Christ's mission was/was not peace
112. Christ did not/did receive testimony from men
113. Christ's witness of himself is true/untrue
114. Christ laid down his life for his friends/enemies
115. It was/was not lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death
116. Children are/are not punished for the sins of their parents
117. Man is/is not justified by faith alone
118. It is impossible/possible to fall from grace
119. No man is without sin/Christians are sinless
120. There will/will not be a resurrection of the dead
121. Reward/punishment bestowed in this/next world
122. Annihilation/endless misery the portion of all mankind
123. Earth is/is never to be destroyed
124. No evil shall/Evil will happen to the Godly
125. Worldly good and prosperity/worldly misery and destitution to be the lot of the godly
126. Worldly prosperity a reward/a curse
127. Christian Yoke is/is not easy
128. Fruit of God's spirit is love and gentleness/vengeance and fury
129. Longevity enjoyed by/denied to wicked
130. Poverty/Riches/Neither a blessing
131. Wisdom a source of enjoyment/vexation, grief, sorrow
132. Good name is a blessing/curse
133. Laughter commended/condemned
134. Rod of correction is cure for foolishness/there is no cure for foolishness
135. Fool should/should not be answered according to his folly
136. Temptation desired/undesired
137. Prophecy is sure/unsure
138. Man's life 120/70 years
139. Fear of man on every beast/fear of man not on the lion
140. Miracles are/are not proof of divine inspiration
141. Moses meek/cruel
142. Elijah ascended to heaven/none but Christ ascended to Heaven
143. All scripture is inspired/Some scripture is not inspired
END.
See, here's what happens when a contradiction is supplied. The inerrancy defender just says "no, not at all" and completely ignores the fact of the contradiction, and goes right on saying the Bible has no contradictions.
Its as if they have a blind spot in their brain. And they blame those who can see for saying they can see.
Why do you believe in such an entity as 'Satan' but don't believe God could divide a sea long enough to deliver his chosen?God allowed Satan to fool the whole world, and the church today is full of pedophiles and all manner of snake oil salesman. So the idea that the people who killed Jesus converted a relatively secular history into a miraculous fiction isn't out of the question at all. Analysis of the scripture shows multiple authors within the same page, duplicate stories with conflicting facts etc.
Analysis of the scripture shows multiple authors within the same page, duplicate stories with conflicting facts etc.
I approach the Bible through God, not God through the Bible. I approach miracles through Jesus not Jesus through miracles.
Content means nothing? The cartoon was used as a statement to make a point...
What are the original manuscripts that you trust, and why?
Sure, let us discuss the meaning of "inerrant". That is pretty important.
To be clear, I'm one of those pesky evangelicals who question the Bible's inerrancy. (I've never heard of any evangelical claiming that the Bible is infallible, but that's cool too!)
Yes, the Bible is the inerrant and all sufficient word of God.
If a person denies the doctrine of inerrancy, they have nothing to base their faith in Christ on, so they are likely not a Christian.
Why do you believe in such an entity as 'Satan' but don't believe God could divide a sea long enough to deliver his chosen?
Please substantiate.
Why do you separate God and Jesus Christ from their own actions and revelation?
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