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Is Sunday worship mark of the beast?

Is Sunday worship the mark of the beast?

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LittleLambofJesus

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Here is an article I wrote on the matter:

Is the Seal of God the Holy Spirit or the Law?
Interesting article. Thks for posting it

[FONT=cd9800358d99aea2299eb168#181100]There is the predominating opinion in the evangelical world that the Seal of God is the HolySpirit. But is this an accurate assertion?[/FONT]
[FONT=cd9800378d99bea4299eb168#181100]Is the Holy Spirit the actual “seal” itself that is placed[/FONT]
[FONT=cd9800358d99aea2299eb168#181100]upon us? [/FONT]Or is there something deeper to this picture?

While technically error does not need to be recognized in the simple understanding that the HolySpirit is the Seal, it can be misleading if we are not careful to compare scripture with scripture,and consequentially end up preventing certain individuals from ascertaining a fuller and more
[FONT=cd9800378d99bea4299eb168#181100]complete understanding of what it means to have God’s Seal.[/FONT]
 
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You're welcome LittleLambofJesus.

I actually have edited it and polished it quite significantly, but have still yet to upload the revised version. I'll get around to it soon sometime.

I actually plan to eventually merge all my articles into Word Press.

Do you think that is a good idea?
 
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The question isn't "what is the sabbath?" The question is "Is Sunday worship the mark of the beast?" I honestly doubt John had the pope in view when he spoke of the beast.

I'm still working out the interpretation of Revelation.

Observance of the Sabbath (which was a shadow of things to come) has some underlying Judaizing tendencies. Galatians 4:10, Col 2:16-17, Rom 14:5-6.

I know it's a touchy subject to some people. I think the Bible teaches that sabbaths were a part of the law, and the fulfillment of that law came about with our salvation in Christ. If you want to celebrate that new found rest we have in Christ with observing the sabbath, then by all means, but I don't think it's a sin to no longer observe the sabbath in the manner described in the OT.

Sunday worship began during the earliest church. The church would meet on the first day of the week to worship together, give offering, teach, and break bread in communion. 1 Cor 16:2, Acts 20:7

If Sunday worship was the mark of the beast, then Paul was the beast, since he endorsed it. Maybe Luke (the writer of Acts) was the false prophet in the same peoples' view? I don't know.

That's my take on it.
 
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Since a thread on this topic was closed by the OP awhile back, I thought I would start one it.
The below is the OP of that thread and would like to ask if this view is held by only a few sects/denominations within Christianity or is it more widespread?
I never heard of this view until I saw it on another thread.
So how many here agree with this "Sunday being the mark of the Beast?
The question isn't "what is the sabbath?" The question is "Is Sunday worship the mark of the beast?" I honestly doubt John had the pope in view when he spoke of the beast.

I'm still working out the interpretation of Revelation.

Observance of the Sabbath (which was a shadow of things to come) has some underlying Judaizing tendencies. Galatians 4:10, Col 2:16-17, Rom 14:5-6.

I know it's a touchy subject to some people. I think the Bible teaches that sabbaths were a part of the law, and the fulfillment of that law came about with our salvation in Christ. If you want to celebrate that new found rest we have in Christ with observing the sabbath, then by all means, but I don't think it's a sin to no longer observe the sabbath in the manner described in the OT.

Sunday worship began during the earliest church. The church would meet on the first day of the week to worship together, give offering, teach, and break bread in communion. 1 Cor 16:2, Acts 20:7

If Sunday worship was the mark of the beast, then Paul was the beast, since he endorsed it. Maybe Luke (the writer of Acts) was the false prophet in the same peoples' view? I don't know.

That's my take on it.
The greek word for "beast" only occurs in 3 verses outside of Revelation :angel:

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G2226 matches the Greek ζῷον (zōon), which occurs 23 times in 20 verses in the Greek concordance

2226. zoon dzo'-on neuter of a derivative of 2198; a live thing, i.e. an animal:--beast.
2198. zao dzah'-o a primary verb; to live (literally or figuratively):--life(-time), (a-)live(-ly), quick.

Hbr 13:11 for of those beasts whose blood is brought for sin into the holy places through the chief priest -- of these the bodies are burned without the camp.

2Pe 2:12 and these, as irrational natural beasts, made to be caught and destroyed -- in what things they are ignorant of, speaking evil -- in their destruction shall be destroyed,

Jud 1:10 and these, as many things indeed as they have not known, they speak evil of; and as many things as naturally (as the irrational beasts) they understand, in these they are corrupted;
 
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Since a thread on this topic was closed by the OP awhile back, I thought I would start one it.
The below is the OP of that thread and would like to ask if this view is held by only a few sects/denominations within Christianity or is it more widespread?
I never heard of this view until I saw it on another thread.
So how many here agree with this "Sunday being the mark of the Beast?

<ironic humour> Three cheers for the pope if he is so powerful that he single handedly managed to convince the whole christian world, including all the ancient churches that separated in the first few centuries from the Catholic Church, that Sunday is the day of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, that Christians gathered, in apostolic times, to worship on Sundays and to share the Lord's supper together on that day, that Saturday was a Jewish obligation but not a Christian one, and that his power was go great and so enduring that not only did every church in that age accept his teaching but every subsequent century and all the churches and denominations of those centuries also accepted it! (except for a very few in the 17th century and a few more in the 19th century). <end ironic humour>

Really, does anybody really believe that a pope has ever had that much power and has ever been that persuasive?

I think not.

As for the sabbath, even the ten commandments as given in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5 tell us explicitly that the commandments were given to Israel: "I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage."
 
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So..... God has just allowed us to worship on Sunday ?? all these centuries until the Seventh Day Adventists came around to "get it right"? Hmmm.... That seems like a very far fetched "theory" that I think I will pass! And yeah Christ's resurrection was a Sunday! We are not worshiping the day but Christ's resurrection here. Christ did NOT define which day to worship either...Sabbath cannot be seen as an exclusive day of worship since the Apostles were breaking bread in the beginning DAILY... That is what I know from Church history and Tradition. Plus logically speaking it makes no sense to get too hanged up over the "day" rather than the "context" of the day...

Celebrating on Sunday sure got Christians out of Judaism and into the day of Resurrection...

Why would God want us to be so mislead? I have no clue other than some "gnostic" or "esoteric" knowledge that this would be the case. I say to the ones who worship on Saturday that is is a matter of tradition and leave it to that... As far as being the day of the beast...that is laughable the same as saying that the symbol of the cross is satanic cause they hanged criminals... It is a matter of faith I guess that each action in Christianity is not taken out of its context or the Apostolic Tradition....that has its roots in the Gospel when we do that we run into trouble...
 
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As for the sabbath, even the ten commandments as given in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5 tell us explicitly that the commandments were given to Israel: "I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage."

Egypt has been understood as a symbol of sin and bondage. Thus, these commandments apply to us, for we have been delivered from sin and bondage. When we sin, we are going back to Egypt.

It's all significant for Spiritual Israel.

You disagree with your own Church. Numerous official statements have been produced to show that your own Church believes the Ten Commandments are still obligatory for Catholics today.


Catholic Commandment Contradiction & Confusion Conundrum - rusda2 - YouTube

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

Antinomians believe the 10 commandments were nailed to the cross & done away with. The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that the10 commandments are still in force (even tho they significantly differ on what some of those commandments are). Our Roman Catholic friend Bingolly1 has contradicted his Catholic Catechism on this subject as shown in this video. This video is in no way an attack on Bingolly1 or Catholics. It is just to show that there is much confusion in the Christian world today concerning Gods Holy law.​
 
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Take note:

2068 The Council of Trent teaches that the Ten Commandments are obligatory for Christians and that the justified man is still bound to keep them;28 The Second Vatican Council confirms: "The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments." 29
Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

2079 The Decalogue forms an organic unity in which each "word" or "commandment" refers to all the others taken together. To transgress one commandment is to infringe the whole Law (cf &#8658; Jas 2:10-11).

2080 The Decalogue contains a privileged expression of the natural law. It is made known to us by divine revelation and by human reason.

2081 The Ten Commandments, in their fundamental content, state grave obligations. However, obedience to these precepts also implies obligations in matter which is, in itself, light.

2082 What God commands he made avaible by his grace.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P79.HTM
 
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Egypt has been understood as a symbol of sin and bondage. Thus, these commandments apply to us, for we have been delivered from sin and bondage. When we sin, we are going back to Egypt.

It's all significant for Spiritual Israel.

You disagree with your own Church. Numerous official statements have been produced to show that your own Church believes the Ten Commandments are still obligatory for Catholics today.

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Christians read Christ into the old testament (and quite right of Christians to do so too!) thus in the case of Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5 the exit from Egypt and from bondage as slaves can be interpreted in the light of Christ as the exit from the world into the kingdom of God and being set free from bondage to sin and the law. This interpretation is, however, spiritualising the passage. If you want to spiritualise the introduction to the Decalogue then you can't object when the sabbath commandment is also spiritualised thus:
Remember to grant a holy rest to all people over whom you have authority because once you were enslaved in sin and in the world and you knew no rest from the works of sin and the law but now you have been forgiven, set free, and granted rest from works of sin and the law by Jesus Christ the Lord. So you too must forgive, granting rest from sin and the law to those over whom you have authority as Christ has given you rest from your works of sin and the law.​
Would you agree?

The literal interpretation is that God called Israel out of Egypt and slavery in Egypt and it is to Israel that the commandments are addressed. "I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." Thus if you want a literal interpretation of the sabbath commandment (and I suspect that you do) then a literal interpretation of the introduction follows and it teaches us that the commandments were given to Israel and not to the world.
 
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Originally Posted by Lysimachus Egypt has been understood as a symbol of sin and bondage. Thus, these commandments apply to us, for we have been delivered from sin and bondage. When we sin, we are going back to Egypt.
That would apply to both Jews and Gentile believers I would think.

Gal 4:24 which things are allegorized, for these are the two covenants: one, indeed, from mount Sinai, to servitude bringing forth, which is Hagar;
25 for this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and doth correspond to the Jerusalem that now [is], and is in servitude with her children,
26 and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is mother of us all,

http://www.christianforums.com/t7570002/#post60524553
Why Jerusalem is Mystically Called Sodom and Egypt

Originally Posted by JamesDAlbright
In Rev 11:8 Jerusalem is called Sodom because it is where, when Jesus died and arose from the dead He completely wiped out sin as He did in Sodom when He completely destroyed it by fire and brimstone. Analysis of the ashen remains of Sodom, which was rediscovered by Wyatt Archeological Research, has shown that this comparison is accurate since they could not reignite the ashen remains that they recovered from the site of Gomorrah.

Jerusalem is mystically called Egypt because when Jesus died and arose from the dead in Jerusalem He released us from the captivity of death as He by His power alone released Israel, which symbolizes Christians, from captivity in Egypt.
Rev. 11:8 And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
Bro. James D Albright


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Originally Posted by Pythons
When you've reduced Christianity to a point the "day" is more important then the God....
...Then of course Sunday worship is the mark of the beast.
...In the same way Saturday worship is the mark of the beast.


I have said they worship the sabbath.

bugkiller
They do seem to be pretty obsessed with it. To each his own.

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The greek word for "beast" only occurs in 3 verses outside of Revelation :angel:

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G2226 matches the Greek &#950;&#8183;&#959;&#957; (z&#333;on), which occurs 23 times in 20 verses in the Greek concordance

2226. zoon dzo'-on neuter of a derivative of 2198; a live thing, i.e. an animal:--beast.
2198. zao dzah'-o a primary verb; to live (literally or figuratively):--life(-time), (a-)live(-ly), quick.

Hbr 13:11 for of those beasts whose blood is brought for sin into the holy places through the chief priest -- of these the bodies are burned without the camp.

2Pe 2:12 and these, as irrational natural beasts, made to be caught and destroyed -- in what things they are ignorant of, speaking evil -- in their destruction shall be destroyed,

Jud 1:10 and these, as many things indeed as they have not known, they speak evil of; and as many things as naturally (as the irrational beasts) they understand, in these they are corrupted;

I really hope you know I was being sarcastic. lol. I don't REALLY believe what I was so obviously ridiculing.

Also, your analysis of the Greek word for beast is incorrect (the info you got from the Blue Letter Bible Lexicon). See Daniel. The Septuagint (which was what the apostles used) has beasts in that. The beasts stood for kingdoms.
 
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that's just silly LLOJ

The Catholic Church has stated in the past that the Sunday Sabbath is the mark of her authority, and that the proof is in the fact that her sister Churches follow her lead. It is also a fact that in the past Catholics were not to buy, sell, or trade with protestants. People of the world also follow the Catholic Church and her traditions, also her man made doctrines. The symbolic meaning to the word "Beast" is nation.
 
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Egypt has been understood as a symbol of sin and bondage. Thus, these commandments apply to us, for we have been delivered from sin and bondage. When we sin, we are going back to Egypt.

It's all significant for Spiritual Israel.

You disagree with your own Church. Numerous official statements have been produced to show that your own Church believes the Ten Commandments are still obligatory for Catholics today.


Catholic Commandment Contradiction & Confusion Conundrum - rusda2 - YouTube

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

Antinomians believe the 10 commandments were nailed to the cross & done away with. The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that the10 commandments are still in force (even tho they significantly differ on what some of those commandments are). Our Roman Catholic friend Bingolly1 has contradicted his Catholic Catechism on this subject as shown in this video. This video is in no way an attack on Bingolly1 or Catholics. It is just to show that there is much confusion in the Christian world today concerning Gods Holy law.​
Revelation 11:8
Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified.
Sodom is sin, and Egypt is bondage. Symbolic Babylon is a world government.
 
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