Is "Star Wars" evil?

[sister_maynard]

After two minutes of "Meesa Ja-Ja Binks-sa!" and nonsense in that vein, I was ready to rip my ears off to avoid his stupid mannerisms. At least the Ewoks just sort of squeaked.

 

[Goatboy]

Actually, that was the Ewoks, aside from perhaps making episode1-3. Jar Jar was annoying and dumb sure, but he didn't cause the the break in the suspension of disbelief a bunch of stone age teddy bears defeating a "legion of my(Emperor's) best troops" did. They were origianlly going to be Wookies, but they are less marketable as plush toys.

I really didn’t mind the ewoks so much.

I always assumed that most of the real fighting wasn’t shown at the end of Jedi and that a legion of the emperors crack troops found out that blast armour and laser weaponry aren’t much use against pungi sticks and lots and lots of jungle to take cover in.
(They aren’t just in the jungle, they are the jungle).

In fact I think the only thing that could get me to really love the franchise again would be if Warwick Davis picks up my idea for a spin off.

An 18 cert, low budget film, involving a battalion of StormTroopers and some officers trying to run an Imperial communications station on a distant jungle moon as the empire falls apart.

There’s something in the jungle, the patrols keep disappearing and only bits are ever found.

Cooked bits.

It’s called “Ewok Dawn”

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

I've never seen a Star Wars movie. I'm really not ready to take a bullet to find out if they are evil, either.

 

[nicolezoeydafney]

1-3 were bad. 4-6 were good before Lucas started tinkering with them again. Leave well enough alone already.

i thought three was great. one and two not so much, but nothing could ever out do the originals. three tied up alot of loose ends in the film.

 

[Rae]

i thought three was great.

I forgive you your blasphemy.

 

[nicolezoeydafney]

I forgive you your blasphemy.

we are all aloud to have our opinions.
like i said three was great!!

 

[sister_maynard]

Three wasn't quite as good as the originals, but the mood was perfect, the fight scenes were excellent, and it blew 1 and 2 entirely out of the water. One of my semi-major quibbles was the time Padme died- Leia says in 6 that she remembers her mother a little, but Padme dies just a few moments after giving birth.

 

[Spherical Time]

Three wasn't quite as good as the originals, but the mood was perfect, the fight scenes were excellent, and it blew 1 and 2 entirely out of the water. One of my semi-major quibbles was the time Padme died- Leia says in 6 that she remembers her mother a little, but Padme dies just a few moments after giving birth.

Not to mention that she dies of nothing.

I have to say that the writing of one, two and three was miserable, and I disagree: The fight scenes in one and two were better than the ones in three.

 

[sister_maynard]

Come on- it's well-nigh impossible to beat the sheer over-the-top craziness of the rock-to-rock volcano duel, and Grevious v. Kenobi was a very interesting idea. All the same, it has been a few years since I've seen 1 or 2.
I think Padme is supposed to die of a broken heart or something stupid like that, but it's sort of medically impossible to do that in a really short time- dying of a broken heart in stories tends to be a slow process as characters don't eat or move much, compromise their immune systems, and fade away.

 

[Goatboy]

Okay, since the conversation now seems dominated by those who consider the prequels worthy of their attention (heretics!), could any of you point me in the direction a really classic piece of dialogue from Ep 1-3?

You know what I mean, the stuff like

“The Circle is now complete...

Or

“Obi Wan never told you…

Because that was one of the big things that made the originals great.

Most of the scripts were just dross, but the occasional gems made it all worth it.

I never got that with the prequels and I don’t hear people quoting them (not even the little gems).

Is it just us OT fans are (far, far away) geekier?

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Okay, since the conversation now seems dominated by those who consider the prequels worthy of their attention (heretics!), could any of you point me in the direction a really classic piece of dialogue from Ep 1-3?

You know what I mean, the stuff like

“The Circle is now complete...

Or

“Obi Wan never told you…

Because that was one of the big things that made the originals great.

Most of the scripts were just dross, but the occasional gems made it all worth it.

I never got that with the prequels and I don’t hear people quoting them (not even the little gems).

Is it just us OT fans are (far, far away) geekier?

Yes, we are far geekier, and thereby superior.

[evil laugh]HAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/evil laugh]

Another anachronism which bothers me is that Anikin (sp?) is an only child in SW1, yet in #4 Luke is being raised by his Uncle and Aunt. Obi Wan also says, "That is your uncle talking, he never approved of your father's belief in the force." (or something like that).

So, obviously, Anikin had a brother who knew him well. How could Lucas overlook this huge part of the story. Theoretically, his uncle could have been a jedi as well, no?

Oh, and the whole virgin birth thing is ridiculous.

/I need a beer.

 

[Goatboy]

Yes, we are far geekier, and thereby superior.

[evil laugh]HAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/evil laugh]

Another anachronism which bothers me is that Anikin (sp?) is an only child in SW1, yet in #4 Luke is being raised by his Uncle and Aunt. Obi Wan also says, "That is your uncle talking, he never approved of your father's belief in the force." (or something like that).

So, obviously, Anikin had a brother who knew him well. How could Lucas overlook this huge part of the story. Theoretically, his uncle could have been a jedi as well, no?

Oh, and the whole virgin birth thing is ridiculous.

Don’t go there bro, just don’t - the pain of the explanations would only make it worse.

Excitement, adventure, Lucas craves not these things.

He was seduced by the power of the CGI McGuffins.

(I know I said don’t go there but I can’t help it. The end of phantom – the only one I saw – the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy are stood around wittering about disturbances in the force, with the Emperor-to-be stood 5 yards away. It’s like pantomime, you just want to shout “He’s behind you!” How rubbish is the new CGI Yoda if he can’t spot that? The old muppet Yoda would have busted Palpatine in about thirty seconds).

I need a beer.

May the force be with you.

 

[crusadernoel]

I think Star Wars may very well be evil.
Darth Vader definately is.

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

I think Star Wars may very well be evil.
Darth Vader definately is.

But in episode VI, he is redeemed. ARRGGGHHH.

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Don’t go there bro, just don’t - the pain of the explanations would only make it worse.

Excitement, adventure, Lucas craves not these things.

He was seduced by the power of the CGI McGuffins.

(I know I said don’t go there but I can’t help it. The end of phantom – the only one I saw – the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy are stood around wittering about disturbances in the force, with the Emperor-to-be stood 5 yards away. It’s like pantomime, you just want to shout “He’s behind you!” How rubbish is the new CGI Yoda if he can’t spot that? The old muppet Yoda would have busted Palpatine in about thirty seconds).



May the force be with you.

And what's the deal with Yoda and his cane? I mean the dude can do back-flips over trailer parks and he still needs a cane? "Small am I?" My grandma would have wanted whatever was in his wheaties.

 

[Rae]

I have to say the page written by someone who translated lines from 3 into Chinese and back (Backstroke of the West) had some great, funny lines in it. Especially since "Jedi Council" apparently translates as "Presbyterian Church."

 

[sister_maynard]

Luke calls his relatives "Uncle Owen" and "Aunt Beru" for convenience- I think Owen was Anakin's mother's husband's friend or son (I'm hazy on the exact relation, but it was in II,) so he was chosen to hide the baby and there's really no convenient and accurate name for their relation.

 

[.Mikha'el.]

I was surfing on Fark.com and came across an interesting web site in a picture which says that "Star Wars" is basically the work of Satan.

Satan's Tool

What do you think? Just curious.

'Tis an absolutely ridiculous notion.

 

[Kahalachan]

Yes, Star Wars is evil, but only Eps I + II to my knowledge. (I see Ep III for the first time tonight.)

It is evil how Lucas made Eps I + II so lacking in what made the first trilogy so good.

I have to include Episode III for evil. In story, dialogue, and continuity. The action scenes and special effects are fun though.