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thanks for your reply, I don't have time to reply to everything, I simply did a word search for sanctification and only found one scripture that mentioned salvation in the same verse as sanctification, as you said we are saved by both, however only one verse said that we were out of all those you posted. So for one, that should tell you something. The fact that more scripture does not state that we are saved by our sanctification, should reveal that this is an error. Secondly I want to include a commentary on the one verse that was mentioned. I don't fully agree with commentary use, however it does show an alternative explanation, I am not saying the explanation is accurate, I am just saying that it is different:
In reference to the one verse that mentioned both salvation and sanctification in one verse: 2 Thess 2:13
"This is the only use of salvation (sōtēria) in this epistle. However, in 1 Thess 5:8–9 sōtēriaclearly refers to salvation from the Tribulation. That fits the context as well. While it is true that Paul has just spoken of the eternal condemnation of the unbelievers who are persecuting the Thessalonians (v 12), the preceding context deals primarily with the fact that the unbelievers will go through the Tribulation.
This salvation requires two things. First, the Holy Spirit will set believers apart (sanctification by the Spirit). This likely refers to positional sanctification. That is the divine side of salvation from the Tribulation. The human side is belief in the truth. This is in contrast to v 12 with its reference to those “who did not believe the truth.” All who believe the truth will escape the Tribulation.
Believers were called to this sanctification by the apostle’s (our) gospel. The result was not only that believers escape the Tribulation, but positively for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. All believers Matt 16:24–28; 1 Pet 4:13)."-Grace New Testament Commentary
Also, in Thessalonians: Paul does not say that you do not have to worry about his current instruction (i.e. 2 Thessalonians 2:13) because they are for a future generation of believers during the end times only. He never says that to the Thessalonians. If you believe he says that, then please quote the verse. Paul is talking in the present tense to the Thessalonians in 2 Thessalonians 2:13. Yes, Paul does refer to the end times in 2 Thessalonians 2, but his instruction on salvation is still being spoken to them in the here and now.
Besides, the Bible does not have to conform to your way of thinking in order for it to be true. There are plenty of verses I provided that clearly show that you need to live holy after we are saved by God's grace. For the children of the Kingdom can be cast into outer darkness (Matthew 8:13). At the judgment: Christ will send forth his angels and gather out of his kingdom all who offend and who work iniquity. So just because somebody professes to be in the kingdom and they were even once saved by His grace, does not mean they are going to remain in the kingdom at the Judgment. The angels of Jesus will cast all who work iniquity into the furnace of fire (i.e. the Lake of Fire) (Please read the sobering words of Jesus in Matthew 13:41-43).
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