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If you love God and your fellow man, than you will keep the 10---they show you what it means to do both. Again---the 1st 4 list our duty to God and the last 6 our duty to man.

1Jn_5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2Jn_1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

All you twisting and turning means nothing when you see the word of God as it is written instead of through the lens of self. This has to do with worship!! And worship is determined by God not man. Cain thought to worship Gold as he pleased, Able did it as God said. In the last days that is what it all boils down to---the worship of God as He directs or the worship of what man says. Putting aside everyth9ng else---what is the main theme?

Rev_13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev_13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev_14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev_14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev_14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

From day one this has been all about whom we worship, whom we obey---Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, down to the last days---it is all about worship and obedience.
You are free to worship and obey whomsoever and in whatever manner you want---I choose to do and obey whatever God has said, and He said it in His word from the very start----obey and live---disobey and die.

Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

It is still the same.
 
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Will you observe it in the future? Why is it mentioned in that passage?

Saint Steven said:
Do you observe the New Moon festival?


You are obviously not reading---I already said the new moon festival is not a part of the 10 commandments. We will be keeping it on the new earth. But on this earth it was associated with blood sacrifice---

Eze_46:6 And in the day of the new moon it shall be a young bullock without blemish, and six lambs, and a ram: they shall be without blemish.

We do nothing that involves a blood sacrifice now, they point to the shed blood of Jesus which is given ONCE. On the new earth it may be as a reminder of that shed blood down through eternity---along with His scars.
 
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mmksparbud said:

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Amen!

Scripture... I love it.

Do you observe the New Moon festival?

Isaiah 66 refers to the New Earth (as it states) and so at that time not only does "all mankind" have the 7th day Sabbath event of Ex 20:11 and Gen 2:1-3... but they also have the new-creation event of Rev 21:1-5 , so at that time all mankind has two creation events and so all mankind comes before God to worship "From Sabbath to Sabbath" (the 7 day cycle God gave at creation) and ALSO "from new moon to new moon" --
 
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Amen!
 
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... to say there was no law before Zion is totally ridiculous!!!
Well, that's exactly what the Apostle Paul said. Was the law given at Zion?

Romans 5:13
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given...
 
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I think they are only a measure of time. Sabbath to Sabbath means week to week and New Moon to New Moon means month to month.
 
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This is such an amazing quote from the Catholic church. Follow the church who had no evidence from scripture to change God's Holy day or follow God. It's an easy choice for me. Not sure why its so hard for so many. Follow the narrow path- it leads to Salvation!


Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was changed from Saturday to Sunday. "The Day of the Lord" (dies Dominica) was chosen, not from any directions noted in the Scriptures, but from the Church's sense of its own power. The day of resurrection, the day of Pentecost, fifty days later, came on the first day of the week. So this would be the new Sabbath. People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become 7th Day Adventists, and keep Saturday holy.
—Sentinel, Pastor's page, Saint Catherine Catholic Church, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995
 
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Well, that's exactly what the Apostle Paul said. Was the law given at Zion?

Romans 5:13
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given...


That is when it was given in writing. Before that, until writing after the flood, it was all oral. If you investigate the Jewish history of writing, it was orl, then it was pictographs, and then writing.
 
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I think they are only a measure of time. Sabbath to Sabbath means week to week and New Moon to New Moon means month to month.


That may be what you want it to mean. God says what He means and means what He says. Go your way at your own peril.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. earth pass,
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Heaven and earth have not passed. All has not been fulfilled. Teaching others to break the commandments, puts anyone in jeopardy of being blotted out of the book of life.
 
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Not under old covenant commandments (10)
 
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Commandments were given through covenant...you have old and New covenant...understanding both covenants gives you understanding why are commandments appeared in both (NT)...

under old covenant given in Sinai brings wrath and death Not life...Read Romans 7
 
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Hello, why don’t you prove from scriptures that the church have to keep the 7th day Sabbath? Any scriptures? Making sure the “7th day sabbath is mentioned in that verse if you find it”...
 
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No way you can keep the old covenant commandments...the bible states the law is spiritual BUt we are Unspiritual sold as slave to Sin...
The law is from God BUT You a Slave to Sin. Sin is your master...Unless you have given Gods Grace which is a gift..
 
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Again, never mentioned the 10 commandments (old covenant) BUT commandments of love one another..This is straight forward stuffs. Love one another is doing good to others not evil...
 
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Again, never mentioned the 10 commandments (old covenant) BUT commandments of love one another..This is straight forward stuffs. Love one another is doing good to others not evil...
Well that is not true. It seems you did not read the scriptures did you.
 
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What is no way? You do the scriptures in the post you are quoting from are new covenant scriptures right and they are God's Word not mine that you are saying no way to right? What is salvation and what does it means to be born again or what is the new covenant? *Hebrews 8:10-12; John 8:31-36; Ezekiel 36:25-27; 1 John 3:6-9?
 
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Not under old covenant commandments (10)
As shown through the scriptures everyone already everyone of God's 10 commandments are in the new covenant. What is your excuse not to believe them?
 
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Hello LGW, keep reading the book of 1John then you will find the commandments...
You mean like this one...

1 JOHN 2:3-4 [3], And HEREBY WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. [4], he that says I know him and does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him.

Notice the context in verse 1 is that Paul is writing these things that we sin not then defines sin in 1 John 3:4 as the transgression of God's law.

Have you read 1 John as it does not seem to agree with you?
 
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