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is pride a fault or a virtue? struggles and stories.

stephanieamber

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As far as I can see, pride is the root of all of our individual sins; be it the desire to exalt oneself, accumulate for oneself, feeling deserved, feeling better than.. it's all pride.

Even prior to deciding that, I have always considered that humility is the key to leading a life that glorifies the Lord. Jesus Christ's story was completely saturated in humility.. the Creator coming to be raised and cared for by his creation, a King coming with no power or physical provision, the Christ dying on a cross between two criminals... no aspect of Christ's life glorified him, it all glorified the Father (which then, in turn, glorified Jesus).

Sometimes it is so hard to interact with people in the way that Jesus calls us to - because of PRIDE. We are worried about what the other person thinks, how they will respond to us, what it will change... but if we could get in a place where we were only concerned with how the Lord sees us, how we can glorify the Lord.. we will be able to walk confidently and boldly.
 
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I think pride is a double edged sword. On the one hand, most people beleive that you need to feel a sense of accomplishment and confidence in yourself to be a healthy person. Because if we don't we end up with low self esteem and don't love ourselves enough. The flipside to that though is often arrogance, selfishness and lack of reliance or even disbelief of God and who He is.

I'm not convinced that God's plan for believers was ever to find a sense of confidence in ourselves APART from Him. Say we are proud that we finished some project at work or school. That isn't inherently wrong or sinful but what do we do? More often than not, instead of giving God the glory for the mind and skills we possess, we congratulate ourselves on how amazing we are/did. We have a boastful spirit and even if it's not putting others down, I don't think the credit is given to the right person.

I don't know. Obviously I need to spend more time thinking about this but my inclination is that until we learn that everything good in us is from God, we are not going to have the mindset and humilty neccesarry to be effective in our faith.

I'm willing to be wrong about this though as long as you can prove that I'm off my rocker through scripture :p

Good post.
 
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Sometimes it is so hard to interact with people in the way that Jesus calls us to - because of PRIDE. We are worried about what the other person thinks, how they will respond to us, what it will change... but if we could get in a place where we were only concerned with how the Lord sees us, how we can glorify the Lord.. we will be able to walk confidently and boldly.

And such is the goal of life, to live in a manner that glorifies God, which is effectively living in his will, with his ideas about it - and cannot be done without humility.

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On another note, it is prudent to note that one of the most
dangerous things to studying, understanding, and enacting
humility towards God and Humanity is doormat theology,
or any equations of humility with weakness.

Humility may also be said to be the state of being produced
by walking in the love of God.

It just occurred to me how much the famed 1 Corinthians 13
message, can so readily compare to how humility is to be.

This is not to say these are to be equated, but certainly
inextricably coupled with one another.
 
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Pride is what caused Lucifer to fall into darkness. Humility is one of the attributes Jesus showed by dying on a cross for our sins. The only begotten son of God living as a common laborer and dying a criminal's death is a powerful thing.

I value humility in my own life. I don't like attention and I don't like talking about my accomplishments because it sounds like proud boasting. All I have and have done is from the Lord. I consider the accolades I receive in life dust compared to my faith in Christ.
 
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great posts everyone! *high fives everyone who posted*
i'm really enjoying reading about your view on this. and your examples are wonderful.
steph yours really stood out to me. i love how you presented it. well said sis! : )
 
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Pride has been the greatest stumbling block in my walk with the Lord, and the greatest hindrance from having a closer and more intimate walk with Christ.

I sat down with an Elder some time ago, and he inferred that I was fortunate to have been blessed with so many natural strengths and talents. I was quick to explain ,that those strengths have often been the biggest threat to having a fulfilling and excellent relationship with the Lord. My tendency is to allow those things in which I have been blessed to become a means to inflate my own self importance, and/or think of myself as above or superior to others.

I don't mean to do it, or necessarily do it consciously, but I find within myself this hidden pride constantly rising up to take the throne of my heart, to where I stand in my own confidence. I abandon the perfect humility of Christ, and become the center of my religion... yet as I do so I find myself devoid of any real love, for it is His love that sustains me. In fact apart from Him I cannot love, for I can only love Him "because He first loved me". I can have everything in myself to walk in an outward display of faithfulness and truth, but if pride is seated within my heart, I do not have the love of Christ reigning within me. "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble."

God's love is not a co-laborer with the pride and strivings of men.

For God's love to reign within us we must abandon our own confidences, and place all confidence in Christ. We must make His very person the confidence we have.

Sure I have many things I could be proud of in my flesh (I will not list them), but when examined in the light of Christ, and beholding His perfect humility it seems like nothing in comparison. Looking at the Lord I see one who knew who His source was, He knew who His strength was, He knew that apart from the Father He could do nothing. The Father who dwelt within Him by the Spirit was His all, and His very confidence; And it was in Him He abode and by Him He overcame death.

Even though He was very much God, His confidence was not one of introverted self-esteem, but it was rather placed in the Father who bore Him.

It totally blows my mind and I cant wrap my head around it, but I see His perfection in this blessed humility. Amen

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A great book I found very helpful it battling with pride is a little book entitled:

"Humility - The beauty of Holiness" by Andrew Murray:

Amazon.com: Humility: The Beauty of Holiness (9781604440706): Andrew Murray: Books

(Short, strong, and readable book... also very affordable :) )
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Also, I dont want people to think I would say we must in some way belittle ourselves before God. If we are of a sober mind, we will know where we stand, and if we have true faith, we will know in whom we can boast.

Early on in my walk, I would try to battle my pride by continually belittling myself, thinking that by calling myself names or looking down upon myself I was being humble. I was doing nothing but contending the flesh with my flesh.

To insult and belittle myself was like exalting myself above myself, it was like a dog chasing his tail. Like a bully insults another child in order to stand above him, so was I insulting myself to stand upon my former self and therefore would teeter totter between two extremes: Self-pity and Self-Confidence.

Charles Spurgeon once said: "Humility is to make a right estimate of one's self.”

The Lord has taught me over time, that it is not he who belittles himself, or he who boasts in himself, but it is he who believes in the Lord alone.

It is the one who knows he is weak, but instead of feeling sorry for himself, places confidence in the one who is strong and thus overcomes all weakness... It is the one, who although may be confident in his own ability, submits his own ability to the feet of the Lord, knowing unless the Lord's blessing and Holy Spirit is upon the work, it is nothing but human work; A work of the flesh, and in God's eye's is nothing but wood hay and stubble.

Even those things we see as our strengths were first given us by God, and we really have no reason to think highly of ourselves because God in His grace chose to give us natural benefits. If we do not give thanks for them, if we esteem ourselves due to those gifts He has given and are not humble in how we use them, there will always be an occasion for pride.

Pride blinds us to truly seeing Christ, because it is not in Him. It is the very essence of the fallen nature, the fruit of the fall of man, and the very same reason Satan and 1/3 of the heavenly host were cast down into chains.

Andrew Murray said this in his book "The Blood of the Cross":

“By the words which Satan whispered into Eve's ear he breathed into her soul the deadly poison of pride. And since man listened to him, self-exaltation became in his case also the root of all sin and sorrow. His life is made up of self-love, self-will, and self-pleasing. Self, or "I", is the idol he serves. Self is a thousand headed monster that, as self-seeking, self-pleasing, self-confidence, and self-esteem, is the fruitful mother of all the sin and misery which is to be found in the world.”

We are called to a sober mind. This doesn't refer necessarily to the consumption of alcohol as much as it means we are to see things soberly (correctly). The mind intoxicated with pride has a distorted image of self. It is like looking at oneself in a flattering mirror. The opposite of this would be self-pity, which is to look at oneself in a fun house mirror which makes one look ugly or ridiculous.

If we behold Christ, and keep a single eye filled with His glorious light the idea of self seems to fade altogether. We may then see all our strengths and weaknesses as nothing if they are not His. Only as we behold Christ and adhere to Him can we abide in humility. Though the light of the law exposes our short comings, the light of His grace adorns us in a righteousness not of ourselves. Here we may assess both ourselves and Christ aright and find peace.

Shaun RW Little
 
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