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Doesn't the bible say something about not involving yourself in worldly pursuits?
When the ultimate destination is heaven, I don't understand why any Christian would bother with the politics of this fallen world. A bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, it seems.
do the math.
if voting is a good thing.
and the Bible verse says "to Him who knows to do good, and does not do it..."
then says...
"to Him it is sin."
So it's an individualized idea.
If I know I should do something, and it's too hard and I don't do it.
it's still a sin.
it doesn't go away, because I don't like it.
James 4:17 (NKJV)
17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.
So the only rebuttal to this logic,
is either the Bible is wrong....
or Voting is not good....
and either point would need to be discussed.
I am amazed how American politics is so bound up with religion, it just goes to show that if people allow themselves to believe irrational things they end up making irrational decisions about a lot of other things in their lives.
If any European politician said they looked to an imaginary friend for guidance they would be gone the next day. [and rightly so]
I would go and live in a monastery if I were you, in that way you could stay away from life altogether.By raising up people's estimation of themselves beyond what God's Word says,
it is possible the enemy of Christ has created a lot of false, vain, and sinful pride and trust in a system that is ungodly.
Since
as Jesus said, the truth is called a lie, and the lie is called 'truth',
so likewise doing what is right is called a sin today,
and sinning is rather approved and popular,
thus topsy turvy sinful world we live in,
with thoroughly evil society,
as in Noah's day.
Math..?do the math.
Is it? Or is it just distraction?if voting is a good thing.
I'm not a fan of cut and paste.and the Bible verse says "to Him who knows to do good, and does not do it..."
then says...
"to Him it is sin."
So it's an individualized idea.
No, BEGETS.Yes life creates life,
Math..?Is it? Or is it just distraction?I'm not a fan of cut and paste.
We haven't established voting is good either.
Moreover, it is of the world, not of God.
"Good"
God is good, Love is good.
The Law of Christ is Agape.
Well, it's the most complex phenomenon known, so i think ascribing it to dead unconscious things without a purpose is quite ridiculous.How did life start?
Mark Twain is said to have said:BUT, BUT, BUT --- THERE"S a lot of money to be made ! Oh yeah !
As you said, "of the world".
Has anyone noticed how many times people "vote" to get more money, instead of choosing what is right ?
(practically always)
So then, how can "voting" or the evil system (greedy by their own admission) promoting it be considered "good" ?
Has the usa kept ANY treaty it ever made ?Mark Twain is said to have said:
"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."
Politicians are known for not keeping their promises too.
Voting is not mentioned in the Bible. It is probably easier to err by voting than by not.I read an tweet about a young man in southern california that said this:
"I just turned 18, and can legally vote for the first time....and all I get is Hillary or Trump."
Is not Voting a sin even if there are not Good Candidates?
This question comes up often,
I take the stance of Billy Graham's son Franklin Graham who says
"vote for the least heathen"
Recognizing no one is perfect does not get us out of our civic duty to God and Country both- to vote.
Now about sin.
There are sins of commission, or doing the wrong thing.
and sins of omission, which is NOT doing the right thing.
Both in the Bible.
sins of omission are found in the book of James:
James 4:17 (NKJV)
17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.
Is voting a good thing?
Yes.
So then not doing it, is a sin of omission.
So we need to repent as a country of this sin.
Now a little thing that disturbs me.
Christians can be odd ducks.
- they will prep for the worse.
- they will bunker down for armageddon.
- they will arm themselves to the teeth, against tyranny.
but when given a legal and proper way to battle the enemy (voting), they say....oh no, ...that's for the state, not the church!...the secular, not the sacred!
What does this tell the world about Christians?
Not very intelligent, the group is.
And I know, I ARE ONE.
Again, we need to repent and Follow God.
Uh. Are you ignoring the CDU in Germany or the Cornerstone Group in the UK?I am amazed how American politics is so bound up with religion, it just goes to show that if people allow themselves to believe irrational things they end up making irrational decisions about a lot of other things in their lives.
If any European politician said they looked to an imaginary friend for guidance they would be gone the next day. [and rightly so]
Voting is not mentioned in the Bible. It is probably easier to err by voting than by not.
if voting is a good thing.
Life create itself? life does that all the time, I think you mean life created out of nothing.
Either that or we create an imaginary being to create everything out of nothing for us, which one do you like?
Yes that's the one.You mean the imaginary being who I have a personal relationship with? The One who is with me every moment of every day? The imaginary being who guides me, heals me, comforts me, speaks with me?
That imaginary being ?
You make a good point, I have not voted in 5 years but am consider strategic voting again.I agree, but even going in that direction one need not vote in every single race. When it comes to President one could choose to vote for a minor party candidate or not at all while voting for other offices and propositions.
Not voting sends a message that the person is simply lazy or does not care, going to vote and not voting for just one office says the choices for that office are all bad.
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