Is Masturbation a Sin?

[eternalmade777]

yes

 

[J.David]

You have never done that then? Or anything remotely close or far away even?

 

[eternalmade777]

no i have most defintly fallen but that dosnt change that fact that it is a sin. all i can do is repent and keep walking

 

[J.David]

no i have most defintly fallen but that dosnt change that fact that it is a sin. all i can do is repent and keep walking

I see what you're saying now, it was a little unclear to me at first. So what are our weaknesses then? Just asking your thought on it...

 

[eternalmade777]

umm weakness ? dont quite no .. i think that sin can be weakness also dont no quite what ur asking?

 

[J.David]

umm weakness ? dont quite no .. i think that sin can be weakness also dont no quite what ur asking?

When Paul specifically draws the line between infirmity (weakness) of the flesh and sin. What are these infirmities that he is referring to? Hope this helps...

 

[eternalmade777]

When Paul specifically draws the line between infirmity (weakness) of the flesh and sin. What are these infirmities that he is referring to? Hope this helps...

were in the bible is this , just askin havent studed it

 

[J.David]

It is referred to alot in 2 Corinthians chapters 11 and 12. But that isnt the only place, but the most listed.

 

[eternalmade777]

When Paul specifically draws the line between infirmity (weakness) of the flesh and sin. What are these infirmities that he is referring to? Hope this helps...

where is this in the bible just asking. havent studied it

 

[eternalmade777]

sry bout that 2nd reply im new at this and thx ill get back to ya on that when i study it hopefuly soon.lol talk u u agean hopefully ima gona
eternal made777

 

[J.David]

The point I'm getting at is there is a distinction between infirmity, iniquity and sin. I also believe that this distinction is becoming all sin in the worlds view to try and destroy the love of the brethren towards eachother. Causing divisions by saying that our weaknesses are sin so they can accuse us falsley of living a life of sin. Trying to overthrow the love of God in the sight of babies in Christ. This is impossible to really happen, but if satan can sway the faith and trust of some that are babies in Christ it will make their steps much more difficult. Not to mention labeling the believers as all hypocrites in the eyes of non-believers.

 

[eternalmade777]

The point I'm getting at is there is a distinction between infirmity, iniquity and sin. I also believe that this distinction is becoming all sin in the worlds view to try and destroy the love of the brethren towards eachother. Causing divisions by saying that our weaknesses are sin so they can accuse us falsley of living a life of sin. Trying to overthrow the love of God in the sight of babies in Christ. This is impossible to really happen, but if satan can sway the faith and trust of some that are babies in Christ it will make their steps much more difficult. Not to mention labeling the believers as all hypocrites in the eyes of non-believers.

good point i disnt relly no where you were coming from but i still think its a sin you might not but i think we can both agree its wrong

 

[cygnusx1]

I have heard both ways.

Why has no-one quoted this scripture?

"And if a man has an emission of sperm, he shall bathe his whole body in water, and be unclean until the evening. And every garment and every skin on which the sperm comes shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the evening. If a man lies with a woman and has an emission of sperm, both of them shall bathe themselves in water and be unclean until the evening." Leviticus 15:16-18

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[sakamuyo]

Why has no-one quoted this scripture?

"And if a man has an emission of sperm, he shall bathe his whole body in water, and be unclean until the evening. And every garment and every skin on which the sperm comes shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the evening. If a man lies with a woman and has an emission of sperm, both of them shall bathe themselves in water and be unclean until the evening." Leviticus 15:16-18

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Probably because it has nothing to do with the conversation. If you want to use that passage to claim masturbation is a sin, you need to read the entire passage and deduce that a husband having sex with his wife is also sin.

In and of itself, there is nothing wrong with masturbation. However, if your faith tells you it is a sin, then you should not do it. No different than drinking or smoking.

 

[eternalmade777]

yes but what does drinkin lead to? druknardness
and somking ? to addiction both are sin what does masturbation lead to? hhmm...

 

[Rising_Suns]

From a Catholic standpoint, although the Bible can be intepretted in many ways, the Church's teaching is very clear about the nature of masturbation.
2352 "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action." 138 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved." 139

2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.

So there you have it. No room to rationalize/justify this behavior as a Catholic.

 

[sakamuyo]

yes but what does drinkin lead to? druknardness
and somking ? to addiction both are sin what does masturbation lead to? hhmm...

I will agree that sexual addiction (of any kind - including sexual addiction within the confines of marriage) is a problem requiring healing. But to say that drinking leads to drunkardness is immature. It /can/ lead to drunkardness, but does not lead to this in all cases. The possibility of leading to a problem is certainly a good reason to avoid drinking, smoking, or masturbation. That is a far cry short of making those things wrong or sinful, though.

 

[AVBunyan]

I have heard both ways.

First - I can't believe this is even being brought up

Second - I can't believe I'm even responding

To thougths should settle this:

First - can the person fixing to commit the act bow his/her head and ask God's blessing upon the act and give thanks for the opportunity?
1 Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

Second - Can the person fixing to commit the act say it is for the glory of God?
1 Cor 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

The two above principles should settle the issue!

God bless

 

[Asaph]

First - I can't believe this is even being brought up

Second - I can't believe I'm even responding

To thougths should settle this:

First - can the person fixing to commit the act bow his/her head and ask God's blessing upon the act and give thanks for the opportunity?
1 Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

Second - Can the person fixing to commit the act say it is for the glory of God?
1 Cor 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

The two above principles should settle the issue!

God bless

Yeah AV, you would think that would settle it, but I'll lay odds it doesn't!....

Asaph

 

[cygnusx1]

Probably because it has nothing to do with the conversation. If you want to use that passage to claim masturbation is a sin, you need to read the entire passage and deduce that a husband having sex with his wife is also sin.

In and of itself, there is nothing wrong with masturbation. However, if your faith tells you it is a sin, then you should not do it. No different than drinking or smoking.

I have read the entire chapter and it has everything to do with the question....


"2. The Book of Leviticus provides many illustrations of the defilements that we all inherited from Adam. Leviticus 15:16-18 refers specifically to uncleanness resulting from an emission of sperm:
"And if a man has an emission of sperm, he shall bathe his whole body in water, and be unclean until the evening. And every garment and every skin on which the sperm comes shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the evening. If a man lies with a woman and has an emission of sperm, both of them shall bathe themselves in water and be unclean until the evening."
Ray C. Stedman comments on this passage as follows:
"It would be a great mistake to judge from this passage that the Bible suggests in any way that sex in marriage is immoral or wrong. This is simply God's reminder of the pollution of nature, of the fact that the nature of humanity is fallen and that man cannot solve his problems himself. He desperately needs a Savior. And he passes on to his children the same fallen, twisted nature and propensities which he himself is born with...
"Life is continually confirming this great fundamental fact which the Scriptures set before us---that there is something wrong with nature. So all that God is doing here when he says that the act of sex results in an uncleanness until evening is simply reminding us that man is a fallen creature and that he must deal with that problem realistically. He can't avoid it. There is no way that he can eliminate it himself. God must handle it, and God has handled it. There is only one way it can be handled---the redemptive intervention of God---and if it isn't handled that way there is no escape from the defilement and the destruction of humanity which will follow. So God reminds us that even in the act of sex which results in conception there is a fallen nature involved." (Ray C. Stedman, The Trouble with Nature, from Commentary on Leviticus).
In the Bible Knowledge Commentary (Victor Books, 1985) F. Duane Lindsey comments on the above passage from Leviticus as follows:
"The second case pertaining to males was the periodic discharge of an emission of sperm, whether possibly a nocturnal emission or one during intercourse. For this case no sacrifice [for sin] was required and the uncleanness was resolved by a simple wash-and-wait (till evening). It is noteworthy that while the normal sexual process between husband and wife made both partners ceremonially unclean---no guilt was involved and so no sacrifice was required." (Commentary on Leviticus, p. 195).
It would seem that all forms of sexual activity, even in a marriage where sexual expression carries God's endorsement and approval, carry the taint of original sin. Portions of Leviticus are designed to protect against sexually-transmitted diseases, and much of Leviticus contains the "holiness codes" for sexual conduct which were imparted to mankind as part of the Law of Moses.
3. A thorough discussion of masturbation and other topics of sexual morality is found in the book Sexual Chaos by John Vertefeuille, published by Crossway Books in 1988. The author is college pastor of Faith Chapel in La Mesa, California.
4. Dr. John White's book Eros Redeemed (Intervarsity Press, 1993)--is excellent.
John White writes as follows (pp124-125),
"In Eros Defiled I wrote about masturbation with compassion. I still have compassion for the victims of masturbation, but the time has now come for me to challenge the views that prevail and to call on Christians to face reality. Masturbation is sin. It is not grave sin, not nearly as serious as pride, or cruelty, or even unkindness. But still it is sin.
Let me state my reasons for calling it sin at all. It is sin because sexuality was not given us for that purpose. In masturbating we use our bodily parts for a purpose God never intended for them. To say that the release of sexual tension justifies it is what my grandmother would have called "all my eye and Peggy Martin"---or what logicians might call specious reasoning.
My first argument, then, for calling masturbation sin is what could be called the argument of design. My body is mine only in the sense that I am responsible for its proper use. I am its steward. For what was my body designed? The Westminster Confession asks a similar if not identical question. "What is the chief end of man?" The answer the authors give is, "Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him forever."
Paul expresses the same end for our bodies. He concludes, "So glorify God in your body" (1 Cor 6:20 RSV). The argument I have been using from chapter three onward concerns the offering of our bodies to God as an act of worship. In the NIV version of Romans 6, Paul even mentions the parts of our bodies, saying, "Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness . . . offer the parts of your body to him [God] as instruments of righteousness. For sin shall not be your master" (Rom 6:13- 14)
My body was not designed to touch. My body was designed to be used exclusively to glorify God. To use it in any other way is to rob God of something that is his by right, for there are no morally neutral actions."

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