LOL if touching yourself's a sin, then I guess I have hundreds of sins that I need to get rid of.
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suzie said:Over touching yourself can lead to importence??? That is very interesting. I would love to know the reference for that little known fact.
So, if my wife is out of town for a few days and I notice my eyes lingering a bit too long on images on tv or the net so I decide to touch while fantasizing about my wife, that's immoral? hmmm...what does that make the things we do when we're together?BenjaminK said:Tell me if I'm wrong, one cannot touch without having lustful and immoral mental images in the mind or the imagination. This, in itself is sin.
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Onan got into trouble because he was supposed to be giving his late brother's wife offspring for his brother as was the custom. Instead, he just used her for sex and pulled out so that she wouldn't get pregnant. It had nothing to do with masturbation.gary cook said:yes their is in gen. GOD cursed a man for taking it out of a women ,our seed is HOLY ,but our flesh is weak and controls most people ,when in truth we are too control it ,He also said it is better to put your seed in the belly of a harlot than on the ground ,you judge is it better to put those million or so babys on the ground or have the one above the rest that make it to be a child ?we are MORE than we appear,
I have wondered about this myself - but my conclusion is - it is still immoral as you are using images of your wife - and not your wife. Could you do this and pray right afterwards for God to bless you marraige?forgivensinner001 said:So, if my wife is out of town for a few days and I notice my eyes lingering a bit too long on images on tv or the net so I decide to touch while fantasizing about my wife, that's immoral? hmmm...what does that make the things we do when we're together?
It's not really a struggle with me, I was just using myself as an example to make a point. When things like that start bothering me, I'll pray about it and if that doesn't help, I'll go to rotten.com and look at some autopsy pics to get a better perspective on the ultimate nature of flesh.HopeTheyDance said:I have wondered about this myself - but my conclusion is - it is still immoral as you are using images of your wife - and not your wife. Could you do this and pray right afterwards for God to bless you marraige?
Note that I am not calling you a sinner - I understand this is a struggle - but it would not be a struggle for humankind to resist such temptations to please themselves, if it wasn't infact sinful. KWIM?
what kind of question is this?? are you trying to justify something??Ceph said:In where did God forbid rape?
Can you please cite the chapter & verse that says "it was better to put your seed in the belly of a whre"gary cook said:GOD cursed a man in the bible for it ,and HE said it was better to put your seed in the belly of a whre than on the ground ,our seed is HOLY ,not a toy
What was the penalty for rape according to the Law?Song said:what kind of question is this?? are you trying to justify something??
lets see read the story about Davids daughter...
the bible doesn't come right out and say "thou shall not rape" but it does say though shall not steal, commit adultery....
if you rape someone you are taking something that does not belong to you. Plus society has told us this act is wrong... Jesus commanded his disciples to obey them that have rule over you (ie the law).
This is it. It says nothing about masturbation and certainly nothing about putting your seed in the belly of a harlot.gary cook said:GOD cursed a man in the bible for it ,and HE said it was better to put your seed in the belly of a whre than on the ground ,our seed is HOLY ,not a toy
..and I do not understand why. It seems people will look for any excuse to give in to every whim of their sexual impulses. If there was a good indicator for the lack of discipline and order in one's life, it is being a slave to their very bodies; lack of will, lack of control, and further ignoring the fact their bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit.Philo said:Freaking masturbation threads, seriously. They go on forever.
..I'll just go with the Pauline standard here. If your conscience convicts you, don't do it.
Simple? Yes. Biblical? Yes.
..I'll just go with the Pauline standard here. If your conscience convicts you, don't do it.
Simple? Yes. Biblical? Yes.