Is masturbating bad?

selfinflikted · Jul 24, 2007

Foolish_Fool said:
You just shot yourself in the foot and didn't even realize it. That "drive" you are referring to is built up testosterone which makes males more aggressive and agitated. So unless you need to hurt somebody, you just listed a benefit of masturbation. Grats on your superior debating skills.

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quatona · Jul 25, 2007

juanaman said:
I hear people say it is okay, if you don't lust...

It destroys your spinal cord.

chaz345 · Jul 25, 2007

Foolish_Fool said:
You just shot yourself in the foot and didn't even realize it. That "drive" you are referring to is built up testosterone which makes males more aggressive and agitated. So unless you need to hurt somebody, you just listed a benefit of masturbation. Grats on your superior debating skills.

Well actually there are things other than being destructive that can be done with the drive. Exercise or working hard on something are the two obvious ones. Actually working to relate to one's wife in such a way as that they want sex is another.

fated · Jul 25, 2007

Foolish_Fool said:
You just shot yourself in the foot and didn't even realize it. That "drive" you are referring to is built up testosterone which makes males more aggressive and agitated. So unless you need to hurt somebody, you just listed a benefit of masturbation. Grats on your superior debating skills.

Masculinity is not a set of bad characteristics as you would lead me to believe with your statement. Testosterone is beneficial to health and endurance as well. You simply suppose that unruly masculine behaviors naturally occur as a result of pent of testosterone, for which you have no real proof. Anecdotal at best.

fated · Jul 25, 2007

JadeTigress said:
Sure, in some cases, it could lead to sex, if both parties agree that that's where they want to take it. However, if one has self-control, one little slip of the tongue isn't going to magically remove their clothing. I've made out for very long periods at a time, and my virginity is still intact. So nyeh.

But wait...*gasp*...I also touch. If, during the course of this making out, I should happen to get super aroused (pretty much inevitable, really), I just remind myself that I can take care of it when I get home. Or maybe even on the drive home...

Good luck with that.

Foolish_Fool · Jul 25, 2007

fated said:
Masculinity is not a set of bad characteristics as you would lead me to believe with your statement. Testosterone is beneficial to health and endurance as well. You simply suppose that unruly masculine behaviors naturally occur as a result of pent of testosterone, for which you have no real proof. Anecdotal at best.

Don't blame me, you're the one who listed warriors, boxers, and athletes. Activities where high levels of aggression and violence are required.

I never said masculinity or testosterone was bad, merely that in the examples you gave, testosterone was being accumulated for the purpose of enhancing agggression. It has the same effect as steroids, which are simply synthesized hormones, usually replicating testosterone.

JadeTigress · Jul 25, 2007

chaz345 said:
Well actually there are things other than being destructive that can be done with the drive. Exercise or working hard on something are the two obvious ones. Actually working to relate to one's wife in such a way as that they want sex is another.

Are you saying that if men touch they won't want to have sex with their wives/girlfriends/boyfriends/etc.? Ha, that's funny.

fated said:
Good luck with that.

Good luck with what?

chaz345 · Jul 25, 2007

JadeTigress said:
Are you saying that if men touch they won't want to have sex with their wives/girlfriends/boyfriends/etc.? Ha, that's funny.

No I'm saying that if one regularly masturbates, they are more likely to turn to that the minute there is a rough patch in their relationship and sex declines, that they are to address whatever the relationship problem is.

JadeTigress · Jul 25, 2007

chaz345 said:
No I'm saying that if one regularly masturbates, they are more likely to turn to that the minute there is a rough patch in their relationship and sex declines, that they are to address whatever the relationship problem is.

I'm a virgin so I can't say for sure, but they tell me that masturbation doesn't satisfy nearly like sex does. So I would think that if you had a good relationship, you'd want to work to get the sex back (besides working out your problems just for the sake of working them out). If you'd rather go touch instead of working out your problems with your partner, then I can't imagine that the relationship was that great to begin with.

Also, for myself, whenever I'm having problems in my relationships, my thoughts are too consumed by them, so that I really don't even want or think about sex, I don't touch. Maybe that's just because I'm a girl, though.

christalee4 · Jul 25, 2007

Sometimes it happens. And I am sure that God still loves you.

YoungJoonKim · Jul 26, 2007

Can you prove how it is not negative or positive?
Its your job..I already have my conviction..
I just need your info lol

Ryal Kane · Jul 26, 2007

YoungJoonKim said:
Convince me, atheists.
Convince me how masturbation saves your life and radically change your life into enlightening position.
Convince me that masturbation creates love and respect.
Convince me that masturbation saves your dick.

Er.. Nobody is saying any of those things. It's enjoyable, harmless and has some health benefits.
It won't make you a superhuman immortal. Cause ther'd be a lot of them running around if it did.

YoungJoonKim said:
Convince me that how masturbation is not addictive to MOST of males.
Convince me that how masturbation is not related to pornography.

The vast majority of males touch and yet they demonstarte none of the harmful signs that acocmpany and usually define addiction.
And it is possible to touch without pornography.

That wasn't too hard. But you might want to do some research about the logic of proving a negative.

"" · Jul 26, 2007

Hello

Human Sexuality, including the current topic of masturbation, is often an interesting subject, and one that should not be silenced, when kept within the boundaries of the CF Rules.

So please consider this rule as you post:

3.2 No Obscene, Vulgar, Racist, Sexually Explicit, or Illegal Posts and Links

Let's stay away from being too graphic in our descriptions here, please. It's a family friendly site.

Also, please take it easy on the flaming. So, people don't always agree with you, that's a part of life right?

We are already working on some reports for this thread, so let's not get more going. I wouldn't want this to be closed down. It's a helpful topic to discuss for many.

Thank you.

YoungJoonKim · Jul 26, 2007

What is the non-harmful signs and healthy signs? And how is masturbation different from watching pornography?
and..so your saying "it is addiction"?
Possibly*

Ohioprof · Jul 26, 2007

YoungJoonKim said:
Convince me, atheists.
Convince me how masturbation saves your life and radically change your life into enlightening position.
Convince me that masturbation creates love and respect.
Convince me that masturbation saves your dick.
Convince me that how masturbation is not addictive to MOST of males.
Convince me that how masturbation is not related to pornography.
And many more.
Let's begin, shall we?

Why do you bait atheists? I am not an atheist, but I do not see how masturbation is related in any way to atheism.

I see nothing wrong with masturbation, and people should do it if they want to. I say just do it in private, and don't neglect your homework! If you don't want to touch, that's fine too.

There are more important issues to discuss than masturbation. It's a non-issue, as far as I can see. But I do not think it's fair to keep baiting atheists as you do. Why don't you just leave them alone?

moogley · Jul 26, 2007

YoungJoonKim said:
What is the non-harmful signs and healthy signs? And how is masturbation different from watching pornography?
and..so your saying "it is addiction"?
Possibly*

And how is masturbation different from watching pornography?

Are we assuming pornography is bad?...
back to the topic of masturbation:
There are no detrimental side effects for the majority of [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]s - as they say everything in moderation!

selfinflikted · Jul 26, 2007

moogley said:
Lets take this one step further....
What if, say... you were blessed with the ability to orally stimulate yourself, would this be wrong?

Well, I can say this.. If I could do that, I'd never leave the house.

chaz345 · Jul 26, 2007

JadeTigress said:
I'm a virgin so I can't say for sure, but they tell me that masturbation doesn't satisfy nearly like sex does. So I would think that if you had a good relationship, you'd want to work to get the sex back (besides working out your problems just for the sake of working them out). If you'd rather go touch instead of working out your problems with your partner, then I can't imagine that the relationship was that great to begin with.

Also, for myself, whenever I'm having problems in my relationships, my thoughts are too consumed by them, so that I really don't even want or think about sex, I don't touch. Maybe that's just because I'm a girl, though.

I think you may have unintentionally hit upon a key point.

WHY is sex with a loving partner more satisfying than masturbation? Or to put it another way, what is lacking in masturbation that is present in sex with a partner?

As for the rest of the post, I can assure you that the difference in thinking is gender based. Typically a man's desire for [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] has nothing to do at all with the his emotional state.

moogley · Jul 26, 2007

The feeling of being wanted/desired/loved/lustedafter generally is accompanied by a good feeling (and also the giving of a gift (in this case sexual pleasure) is often satisfying). And generally this is what happens when two (or more) people have sex with eachother aswell as the physical side.

musefatale · Jul 26, 2007

fated said:
Masturbation makes conjugal love cheap. It is addictive and drives marriages apart. It is almost impossible to do so without lusting, and lusting in an addicted manner causes a degraded sense of worth for the object of your affection... in conjunction with the act.

It is the first step toward relativism of various sexual relations and decreases the unitive force of the licit conjugal act.

Which in turn harms the family. And thus degrades society. Leading to divorce, abortion, and various other nefarious things.

It also appears to wash out the natural and fruitful initiative of the male spirit.

Any questions?

Any form of sex is addictive to a person with an addictive personality. There are people in the world who can drink and never become alcoholics, who can do drugs and never become addicts. There may be people in the world addicted to masturbating, but it's not very likely that they're with another person to make a problem out of it.

Clinically speaking, most women do not touch with anything in mind but the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] (that is to say, not ALL women fall into this category), and it's approximate 50/50 split among males when it comes to if there are associating fantasies or not.

I can agree with you that a person who is addicted to masturbating, and chooses it over sex with a partner (but c'mon, who does that) may run the risk of ruining the relationship, but tell me... how could masturbating lead to an abortion again?

Trust me on this one, a man would ALWAYS much rather be having sex with a woman than masturbating. Trust me. Unless, of course, they have a problem with women and they're masturbating because they don't want to have sex with their female partner, but that's an entirely different thread.

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